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There are some obvious glaring problems from a scriptural standpoint with the predominant teaching that Jesus Is God or as they say God the Son the second person in the trinity. The Most obvious passage would Be John 20:17 I ascend unto to My God and Your God. Clearly irrefutable, that Jesus confesses that He has a God over him for he says My God. Again Rev 3:12 Temple of my God. The Apostle Paul Clearly teaches the same Eph 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ Again Eph 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ Again 1 Pet 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. Paul and Peter acknowledge and taught that Jesus has a God over him. A God he worships for he confessed to Satan that he worships and serves his God and only him. Mat 4:10
Now the trinity doctrine declares that 3 beings in one God are equal in authority and counsel and power.
According to these passages Jesus has a God over him that he worships making him subordinate not equal.
Furthermore
Hebrew Chapter 1 God who at different times and in different manors spoke in times past unto the fathers by the prophets whom he has in these last days spoken unto us by his Son. Whom he as appointed heir of all things.By whom also he made the worlds.
Now, the writer one of the real founding Fathers, portrays the Jesus he knows as subordinate to a superior for he says, Jesus was appointed heir of all things.This is consistent with what Jesus said repeatedly, my father sent me John 4:34. One who is sent is in a subordinate position to a superior.For Jesus says I came not to do my own will. John 6:38 One who is appointed is receiving a possession or a position in which he has no authority to have unless one superior to him appoints it to him. He also declares the Jesus he knows, whom he portrays in a subordinate role to a superior being as the means by which the superior being created the worlds. Paul teaching this as well Eph 3:9 The phrasing of this passage appointed heir of all things leaves the trinity teaching of 3 equal beings in one God without a foundation. For one appointed is not equal to the appointee.
Now, What Jesus is inheriting from the superior being is mentioned in Dan 7:13-14. A kingdom that will never be destroyed. In this passage as well, Jesus is portrayed by Daniel as being subordinate to a superior and receiving something in which he had no authority to have unless given by one superior to him. Again demolishing the trinity theory of 3 equal beings in one God.One subordinate is not equal to his superior.
Who being the brightness of his glory and the express image of his person. Who upholds all things by the word of his power, who by himself purged our sins and sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high.
In this place sits down at the right hand of the Majesty on high. Heb 1:3 Right here, the writer, a founding Father portrays the Jesus he knows, whom he declares as the creator, positioned in a place of honor, which is what at the right hand means, but yet subordinate to a superior being. For he says at the right hand of the Majesty on High. This being consistent with my Father is greater than I John 14:28
So the writer, a founding father does not portray the creator of the world as being the Majesty on High. But the Majesty on High being superior to the creator.
The creator in a subordinate role.Again demolishing the trinity theory of 3 equal beings in one God.For one who is the Majesty on High is greater than all.
Being made so much better than the angels as he has by inheritance obtained a more precious name than they. Heb 1:4
The writer , a founding Father portrays the Jesus he knows as being created by the Majesty on high. The word made means to bring into existence ,which is what begotten also refers to. Being created. John 1:13 Heb 1:6 Rev 3:14
The writer gives a reason why Jesus was better( or above ) than the angels but yet lesser than the Majesty on high. That reason was as he says by inheritance Heb 1:4 obtained a more precious name than they. This word inheritance signifying Jesus as an offspring of the Majesty on High Heb 1:3 The God who sent his Son to speak for him Heb 1:1 Due 18:18 Jesus being the only begotten son of God. For he says To which of the angels did he say you are my Son this day I have begotten you. Heb 1:5 The answer to the question of Heb 1:5 is none of the angels did God say your my Son this day I have begotten you. The angels do not receive the inheritance that Jesus receives from the Majesty on High. Which is an everlasting Kingdom Dan 7:13-14 For he is the only heir. The only begotten John 1:14 Heb 1:6 Subordinated to the Majesty on high,who was begotten before the world was, existing before the world was John 17:5 and 1 John 4:9 Superior to the angels because the Majesty on high created him and only him, making him the only heir. Col 1:18 Col 3:10 Rev 3:14 John 1:1 Heb 1:4 Thus the term only begotten of the father. John 1:14. Making Jesus the first thing the Majesty on High directly created and the lasting thing he directly created. Thus the term the first and the last. If you are the first of something and the last of something that makes you the only thing. Thus the term the first and the last is a figure of speech that demonstrates a singular position of only, none else
John 1:1 Is consistent with the views of the Hebrew writer in regards to Jesus relationship to the Majesty on high. For he says In the beginning John 1:1 The word beginning literally means the person or thing that commences, the first person or thing in a series, the leader. In as much as Jesus portrays Satan as the first to be a murderer. John 8:44 Same Greek word as John 1:1 This is consistent with what the Hebrew writer says being made( Come into existence, first in a series) Heb 1:4 Then he says was the word. John portrays the word as having a beginning or coming into existence.The majesty on high has no beginning. But the word has a beginning. And the term only John 1:14 is consistent with the term beginning John 1:1. For only means unique one of a kind, first in a series and that certainly is consistent with the Hebrew writers view for he says being made better than the angels has he has by inheritance obtained a more precious name than they. Heb 1:4 Since none of the angels were declared to be a begotten Son of God Heb 1:5 and none of the angel were told to sit at the right hand majesty on high, the Hebrew writer demonstrates the exclusive unique privileged relationship Jesus had with the Majesty on high. Above the angels but subordinate to the Majesty on high.
Thus the term only ,unique, one of a kind
Back to John 1:1
John teaches the word had a beginning.John 1:1 John also teaches Jesus was from the beginning ( first in a series.)1 John 1:1 John also teaches that Jesus was the word of God Rev 19:13. The Hebrew writer teaches that Jesus the word of God was not the Majesty on High Heb 1:3 and was subordinate to the Majesty on high and was made Heb 1:4 ,receiving that which he had no authority to have.Heb 1:2
I ask you this question. Where do words come from? The answer is a mouth.They are spoken. John 1:1 In the beginning was a literal word. That literal word came out of the mouth of the Majesty on high. As Rev 19:13 says word of God same as Word from God. That literal word was spoken into existence. Thus God was the word John 1:1 A literal word in God's Mouth. You might be saying write now, no it says the word was God. If you do some research on when they translated into English they switched it around thinking it sounded better without changing the meaning. The original Greek says God was the word.
Now Just as Genesis says let there be light. And it was so. Let there be fowls in the air and it was so and Let there be fish and it was so and let there be stars and it was so.
So likewise the Majesty on high spoke and Jesus came into existence.God His Father having a the plan of salvation already devised for His only begotten Son, His first and last direct creation to execute 2 Tim 1:9 1 Pet 1:20
The only begotten of the Father
Col 1:18 Col 3:10 Rev 3:14 John 1:1 Heb 1:4
Then Jesus God's Only Begotten Son created everything else
There are some obvious glaring problems from a scriptural standpoint with the predominant teaching that Jesus Is God or as they say God the Son the second person in the trinity. The Most obvious passage would Be John 20:17 I ascend unto to My God and Your God. Clearly irrefutable, that Jesus confesses that He has a God over him for he says My God. Again Rev 3:12 Temple of my God. The Apostle Paul Clearly teaches the same Eph 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ Again Eph 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ Again 1 Pet 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. Paul and Peter acknowledge and taught that Jesus has a God over him. A God he worships for he confessed to Satan that he worships and serves his God and only him. Mat 4:10
Now the trinity doctrine declares that 3 beings in one God are equal in authority and counsel and power.
According to these passages Jesus has a God over him that he worships making him subordinate not equal.
Furthermore
Hebrew Chapter 1 God who at different times and in different manors spoke in times past unto the fathers by the prophets whom he has in these last days spoken unto us by his Son. Whom he as appointed heir of all things.By whom also he made the worlds.
Now, the writer one of the real founding Fathers, portrays the Jesus he knows as subordinate to a superior for he says, Jesus was appointed heir of all things.This is consistent with what Jesus said repeatedly, my father sent me John 4:34. One who is sent is in a subordinate position to a superior.For Jesus says I came not to do my own will. John 6:38 One who is appointed is receiving a possession or a position in which he has no authority to have unless one superior to him appoints it to him. He also declares the Jesus he knows, whom he portrays in a subordinate role to a superior being as the means by which the superior being created the worlds. Paul teaching this as well Eph 3:9 The phrasing of this passage appointed heir of all things leaves the trinity teaching of 3 equal beings in one God without a foundation. For one appointed is not equal to the appointee.
Now, What Jesus is inheriting from the superior being is mentioned in Dan 7:13-14. A kingdom that will never be destroyed. In this passage as well, Jesus is portrayed by Daniel as being subordinate to a superior and receiving something in which he had no authority to have unless given by one superior to him. Again demolishing the trinity theory of 3 equal beings in one God.One subordinate is not equal to his superior.
Who being the brightness of his glory and the express image of his person. Who upholds all things by the word of his power, who by himself purged our sins and sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high.
In this place sits down at the right hand of the Majesty on high. Heb 1:3 Right here, the writer, a founding Father portrays the Jesus he knows, whom he declares as the creator, positioned in a place of honor, which is what at the right hand means, but yet subordinate to a superior being. For he says at the right hand of the Majesty on High. This being consistent with my Father is greater than I John 14:28
So the writer, a founding father does not portray the creator of the world as being the Majesty on High. But the Majesty on High being superior to the creator.
The creator in a subordinate role.Again demolishing the trinity theory of 3 equal beings in one God.For one who is the Majesty on High is greater than all.
Being made so much better than the angels as he has by inheritance obtained a more precious name than they. Heb 1:4
The writer , a founding Father portrays the Jesus he knows as being created by the Majesty on high. The word made means to bring into existence ,which is what begotten also refers to. Being created. John 1:13 Heb 1:6 Rev 3:14
The writer gives a reason why Jesus was better( or above ) than the angels but yet lesser than the Majesty on high. That reason was as he says by inheritance Heb 1:4 obtained a more precious name than they. This word inheritance signifying Jesus as an offspring of the Majesty on High Heb 1:3 The God who sent his Son to speak for him Heb 1:1 Due 18:18 Jesus being the only begotten son of God. For he says To which of the angels did he say you are my Son this day I have begotten you. Heb 1:5 The answer to the question of Heb 1:5 is none of the angels did God say your my Son this day I have begotten you. The angels do not receive the inheritance that Jesus receives from the Majesty on High. Which is an everlasting Kingdom Dan 7:13-14 For he is the only heir. The only begotten John 1:14 Heb 1:6 Subordinated to the Majesty on high,who was begotten before the world was, existing before the world was John 17:5 and 1 John 4:9 Superior to the angels because the Majesty on high created him and only him, making him the only heir. Col 1:18 Col 3:10 Rev 3:14 John 1:1 Heb 1:4 Thus the term only begotten of the father. John 1:14. Making Jesus the first thing the Majesty on High directly created and the lasting thing he directly created. Thus the term the first and the last. If you are the first of something and the last of something that makes you the only thing. Thus the term the first and the last is a figure of speech that demonstrates a singular position of only, none else
John 1:1 Is consistent with the views of the Hebrew writer in regards to Jesus relationship to the Majesty on high. For he says In the beginning John 1:1 The word beginning literally means the person or thing that commences, the first person or thing in a series, the leader. In as much as Jesus portrays Satan as the first to be a murderer. John 8:44 Same Greek word as John 1:1 This is consistent with what the Hebrew writer says being made( Come into existence, first in a series) Heb 1:4 Then he says was the word. John portrays the word as having a beginning or coming into existence.The majesty on high has no beginning. But the word has a beginning. And the term only John 1:14 is consistent with the term beginning John 1:1. For only means unique one of a kind, first in a series and that certainly is consistent with the Hebrew writers view for he says being made better than the angels has he has by inheritance obtained a more precious name than they. Heb 1:4 Since none of the angels were declared to be a begotten Son of God Heb 1:5 and none of the angel were told to sit at the right hand majesty on high, the Hebrew writer demonstrates the exclusive unique privileged relationship Jesus had with the Majesty on high. Above the angels but subordinate to the Majesty on high.
Thus the term only ,unique, one of a kind
Back to John 1:1
John teaches the word had a beginning.John 1:1 John also teaches Jesus was from the beginning ( first in a series.)1 John 1:1 John also teaches that Jesus was the word of God Rev 19:13. The Hebrew writer teaches that Jesus the word of God was not the Majesty on High Heb 1:3 and was subordinate to the Majesty on high and was made Heb 1:4 ,receiving that which he had no authority to have.Heb 1:2
I ask you this question. Where do words come from? The answer is a mouth.They are spoken. John 1:1 In the beginning was a literal word. That literal word came out of the mouth of the Majesty on high. As Rev 19:13 says word of God same as Word from God. That literal word was spoken into existence. Thus God was the word John 1:1 A literal word in God's Mouth. You might be saying write now, no it says the word was God. If you do some research on when they translated into English they switched it around thinking it sounded better without changing the meaning. The original Greek says God was the word.
Now Just as Genesis says let there be light. And it was so. Let there be fowls in the air and it was so and Let there be fish and it was so and let there be stars and it was so.
So likewise the Majesty on high spoke and Jesus came into existence.God His Father having a the plan of salvation already devised for His only begotten Son, His first and last direct creation to execute 2 Tim 1:9 1 Pet 1:20
The only begotten of the Father
Col 1:18 Col 3:10 Rev 3:14 John 1:1 Heb 1:4
Then Jesus God's Only Begotten Son created everything else
Heb 1:2 Eph 3:9 Col 1:16 John 1:3