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Is it time for America to forge a new foreign policy?

Thief

Rogue Theologian
The battle for world domination.
Involves power, influence and respect.
America Has never had more than one of the three at the same time.

However what the word neede more is Peace and the ability to trade freely.

This is better achieved when no one country can dominate all others.
Today there are bigger issues to contend with than wars.
There is little point in tooling up for war when the only prize is the ashes of Global Warming.

There is no reason at all why the world should not function perfectly well with more than one political system in place.
However what we see in both China and Russia is not Communism, both are now Hybrids. However both rely very much top down processes.
Both the American and Russian systems basically rely on corruption. both politically and financially. with China the problem is more with how to control and direct a people that are largely free to become entrepreneurs and oligarchs, while maintaining complete state control, and for the benefit of the people.

All three countries would be far better off sorting out their own systems, while continuing to trade freely.
at first I thought you were overlooking ......money
but then recovered to mention....trade
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
You think the USA is more corrupt than China?

They are both corrupt but in different ways.
China has always used corruption as a tool.
It is fine for an official to be a little corrupt. his superiors are well aware of it and use it to control and keep him pointing in the right direction.
If he goes to far or fails his superiors, he is always useful for spare organ donations.
This principal works at every level. even Billionaires and top level officials get their Comeuppance.
China has practiced this since the earliest Emperors. it works no matter the colour of the politics of the day.

The corruption of the USA is mostly just money, Power and politics. but it is totally out of control. it is part of the social and business make up. so much so that people hardly notice it.
 
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Audie

Veteran Member
They are both corrupt but in different ways.
China has always used corruption as a tool.
It is fine for an official to be a little corrupt. his superiors are well aware of it and use it to control and keep him pointing in the right direction.
If he goes to far or fails his superiors, he is always useful for spare organ donations.
This principal works at every level. even Billionaires and top level officials get their Comeuppance.
China has practiced this since the earliest Emperors. it works no matter the colour of the politics of the day.

The corruption of the USA is mostly just money, mower and politics. but it is totally out of control. it is part of the social and business make up. so much so that people hardly notice it.
How did you notice it
 

anna.

but mostly it's the same
The last several decades have been a cold bath in humanism and naturalism, and there has been a reaction from the ministry. You've seen bits of it in the creation science movement, but that isn't the whole picture. People perceive good vs. evil and a fight between the two. What can be viewed as point of view can also be described in other ways.

The GOP has cynically taken advantage of this since the Cold War, because apocalyptic fear meant money, influence, and votes.
 

Brickjectivity

wind and rain touch not this brain
Staff member
Premium Member
I actually think that is true. I also think the Democrat Party is guilty of writing off all of the people that the GOP has absorbed. Partners. It may be less of a conspiracy and more of an attempt to preserve the two party system. I'm not sure how things work at the top.
 

Kooky

Freedom from Sanity
@Stevicus considering the two opening posts, I want to mention something I often bring up. WWII made many, many US citizens believe that Satan was real, was actively involved in world politics. You seem not to notice, but this has had and still has a major impact on US politics. A lot of us believe Satan is behind pro-choice, that Satan is behind ERA, that Satan is behind communism. The confluence of Nazism and the massacres of the communists has greatly strengthened this belief. This is significant, not insignificant. I don't think you can afford to leave it out of your summary of the situation. Many of us believe evil exists, that it is out there trying to destroy good, not just philosophically but actively.
Who do you believe is behind the atrocities the US and its allies (the Contras, the Shah, Pinochet etc.) have committed?
 

Brickjectivity

wind and rain touch not this brain
Staff member
Premium Member
Who do you believe is behind the atrocities the US and its allies (the Contras, the Shah, Pinochet etc.) have committed?
I'd be guessing. Maybe Reagan and his cabinet. Reagan could do no wrong.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
if there were no guns there would be no gun users, think you're going to supply a whole bunch of weapons and then blame the recipient for using them, idiocy.
As a matter of fact, yes, the people using the guns are the ones to blame for any misuse.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Guns make it easy to kill versus knives and bricks, thus they do play a role in the relatively high homicide rate we have here in the States versus western Europe, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, etc. With roughly 300,000,000 guns in circulation alone here in the States, should we really expect anything different?
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Guns make it easy to kill versus knives and bricks, thus they do play a role in the relatively high homicide rate we have here in the States versus western Europe, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, etc. With roughly 300,000,000 guns in circulation alone here in the States, should we really expect anything different?
Some people are just so stupid they don't see the connection
 
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