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Is gullibility a virtue in Christianity?

Audie

Veteran Member
Your rhetorical question shows lack of understanding. Being "born" with original sin does not mean younger = more sinful.

Ah so desu ka, your understanding is that people
are born sinful.

And, I in no way suggested kids are "more sinful",
who knows how you got that.

Sorry, if you think that, 'tis not I who is without
understanding.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Youre making it complicated on purpose.

One long round line has no starting point. Its not made up of points (unless you draw it that way). Its ongoing.

You can imagine a starting point anywhere. It's not defined so you can make it up by putting your pencil anywhere.

The nature of a circle has no beginning.

What in the world are you talking about?

So a circle is eternal. Nobody had to start one.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
circulars can go reverse too.

Name the starting point.

If you have a car on the circle, although it can go back and forwards, the question is where is the starting point?

Where does the track begin and where does it end without our interpretation of where the car should start moving.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
i can draw a straight line, can you find the starting point?

Starting point is where the line begins and ends. So, it can be on one side or the other. Doesn't matter. Think of the olympics track.

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There is only a beginning and end. Where she starts. Where she ends. She can go in reverse but the point is there is a starting Point.

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Here you can make the starting point wherever you want. Without your contribution, take out the lines and signs, it's just one huge circle. It has no starting point in and of itself.

While the racers can run forward or reverse, unless there is a start/end created by say lines, they'd be running forever without stop. @Audie

The former, they can't. Once the end, they are not on track. They can repeat but there is always a starting and in point without our contribution.

What is your point?
 

syo

Well-Known Member
Starting point is where the line begins and ends. So, it can be on one side or the other. Doesn't matter. Think of the olympics track.

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There is only a beginning and end. Where she starts. Where she ends. She can go in reverse but the point is there is a starting Point.

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Here you can make the starting point wherever you want. Without your contribution, take out the lines and signs, it's just one huge circle. It has no starting point in and of itself.

While the racers can run forward or reverse, unless there is a start/end created by say lines, they'd be running forever without stop. @Audie

The former, they can't. Once the end, they are not on track. They can repeat but there is always a starting and in point without our contribution.

What is your point?
have you ever draw a circle?
 

Audie

Veteran Member
I think it's an easy geometrical understanding of the circle shape. Outside of anology, can you explain the start of a circle?

It is different ways of thinking of a "beginning".

Squares dont have one either, from your pov.

But the physical circle, of whatever construction,
was not always there. And the topic is time; when,
not where. Is this not so?

Who cares where pencil first met paper?
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
It is different ways of thinking of a "beginning".

Squares dont have one either, from your pov.

But the physical circle, of whatever construction,
was not always there. And the topic is time; when,
not where. Is this not so?

Who cares where pencil first met paper?

Im not very complicated so if you have a cookie cutter in the shape of a circle, dipped it in paint, and put it on paper, no one started the circle, it just is. Saying life has a starting point is saying that we aren't forming from one thing to another but linear and just poof from existence.

I know people like to find origin and have a secured destination but life just doesnt work that way.

I was reading an article about goals versus intentions. Goals assume that we know the future because we plan for something we will be present and alive to experience the goal completion.

Then you have intentions which isn't based on what you have faith in achieving but your current state of what you want to do now. Not future but present.

When you have a linear shape, we assume it will go on forever without an end. So we yearn for heaven and assume lines dont end. A lot of us on the other hand (of many) see life based on intention. So we are reborn nothing just ends.

The thing is, not all are comfortable with staying on earth. They want to escape.

Our wants and beliefs doesn't make lines go on for eternity and circles have a beginning and ending. But not all accept that their beliefs don't define reality. At least mathematics wise.
 
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