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Featured Is God using Covid 19 to get our attention ?

Discussion in 'Scriptural Debates' started by dave wolfe, May 21, 2020.

  1. dave wolfe

    dave wolfe New Member

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    I was watching some videos on the YouTube, were Justin Brierley, (Unbelievable: host on Premier Christian radio) interviews the British evangelist J John about the current epidemic of Covid 19. At 10.39 minutes in, J John says, 'Many of us are trying to get Gods attention but I think Gods trying to get our attention.' Various other christian leaders in the evangelical soup have echoed the same theme, suggesting that this Covid 19 is Gods rather grim way of getting the attention of believers and I assume non believers. What do you think? Is it really possible that an omniscient God needs to drop the bar so low to get his creations attention?
     
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  2. rational experiences

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    It would depend on what you infer is God. The God of science or the natural God that supported natural life and human health in its Nature?

    The God of science is the UFO satellite historic attack on our planet a long time ago, that converted the stone, removed it attacked all the higher states, irradiated them and hence change is by this artificial God.

    So I think you would need to ask the artificial God self...science that question...seeing that question would not be asked if no humans were living on Earth.
     
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    After all the damage that Covid 19 has done, I would only expect some narcissist attention ***** to use such means to get attention. I don't think God is anything like that.

    I just think we, humans, messed it up and are facing the consequences of our mistakes. We brought Covid on our own selves [just like most of our other problems]
     
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  4. Etritonakin

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    God is making us gods ("ye are gods").

    If God wanted to create happy humans who lived and died, he would not have given "the creation over to futility in hope".

    We would be subject to a pleasant reality -then die.

    We are subjected to an imperfect reality -and strive against it.

    Every problem and challenge draws out of us mastery of reality.

    Whether we seek to deflect asteroids or cure disease, we are being prepared to order the entire creation.

    "that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God"
     
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    If you read and understand the Bible, you would likely realize that evangelist merely say what they think will get ignorant people's attention, and, or because they themselves are ignorant of God's ways. In other words, they don't know the Bible, and in many cases, they don't care what the Bible says. Tickling ears, and getting money from the spiritually poor, is their only concern.
    Some people are waking up though... Sadly, others think their money is in good hands, since they think they can "buy God's favor".
     
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  6. rational experiences

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    Humans are humans, as humans and in the Bible there is no quote about a human being anything other than a human.

    And a human had a choice....live one happy life as a life equal without sex...for sex would bring a third self into the life.

    And they chose sex.

    So ask a baby who is born mutated if God made them that way?

    And the answer would be no science caused it by changing natural light of day 12 from Even balances into Eve as a copier of the history of God/Earth.

    For if God is stated to have changed the atmospheric cold origin of evolution...by de evolving back to a light gas state of burning gases...when God had evolved to EVEN balances....then the theme is taught as it is taught.

    Who is God if you ask a human being male and scientist inventor? He would proclaim that the machine plus his own self is owner of all the powers of God in his own body.

    Okay, so God the human male...for you quote God as a He..that He did it....was first living on Earth and owned the invention science...as a state?

    Yes says all of the information it did. For even NATURAL LIGHT 12/12 was even.

    We live in that EVEN state natural light, healthy as a human life.

    So you are proven wrong to claim that God changed God for the purpose of our harm....when human male pretending to be God man/plus machine being PHI quotes in the bible...changed Even balances to EVE and irradiated us.

    The human life therefore chose sex because irradiation changed their brain chemicals....which is proven sexual motivation is chemical brain supported.

    Hence if you ask that God scientist, when you built the machine where did you get the design from. His answer is it communicated visions through the cloud cooling by UFO satellite...and that was a lesser irradiation state.

    When I activated the machine...the machine put into my spirit body what God owned.....extra radiation for bio life is not stone if you used common sense and human rationality, as a human being who owns a reason to say, sex or no sex.

    No baby ever asked to be born mutated and sick because a male adult claims I invented God science and then put extra radiation from stone inside of his own life body.
     
  7. sun rise

    sun rise "Let there be peace and love among all"
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    First, welcome to RF @dave wolfe .

    Every religion has a theology of end times and in modern times a lot of people expect a Hollywood event heralding the change.

    Personally I believe we're living in the first few "microseconds" of the birth of the new humanity. Like all forms of birth, there's pain and trauma in the process.

    The pandemic is bringing pain and suffering, no doubt. But at the same time I see an upsurge in people helping people they don't know. I see people alive to the essence of what is going on. Therefore I see an upsurge in the essence of divinity - in what is in essence love. So I rejoice when I see things like this:

    energy.jpg
     
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    One would expect that if an omniscient God needed or wanted to get his creation's attention, he would devise a way so ingenious that it would immediately poduce the intended result. I'm currently not giving any special thought to an hypothetical deity nor do I believe there is such a deity in the first place. If this is a divine device to catch the attention of all his creation, either I'm not part of this creation or this deity failed and thus isn't omniscient.
     
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    I really, REALLY hope what you are saying is true. I have seen nothing but pain in my life, and I just want this pain and suffering to end, not just in my life, but in the life of my family and of every sensible individual.
     
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    Just a bug and nature. Not the first time, it will not be the last.
     
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    Nope. Not according to the Bible writer James, who wrote, "When under trial, let no one say, "I am being tried by God." For with evil things God cannot be tried, nor does He Himself try anyone."

    Rather, people bring good or bad things on themselves. Galatians 6:7; Deuteronomy 32:4-5..

    Somebody in China ate a bad chicken, and then coughed on others. (I d k.)
     
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  12. sun rise

    sun rise "Let there be peace and love among all"
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    The level of suffering in the world is and has been immense. I find solace and optimism in songs like this one:

    HOW CAN I KEEP FROM SINGING/THE GREAT STORM IS OVER
    My life rolls on in endless song
    Above earth’s lamentations
    I hear the real though far-off hymn
    That hails the new creation
    Above the tumult and the strife
    I hear it’s music ringin’
    It sounds an echo in my soul
    How can I keep from singin’?

    Alleliuah the great storm is over
    Lift up your wings and fly
    Alleliuah the great storm is over
    Lift up your wings and fly

    Thunder and lightning gave voice to the night
    The little lame child cried out in her fright
    Hush little baby, a story I’ll tell
    Of a love that has vanquished
    The powers of hell
    (chorus)
    Sweetness in the air and justice on the wind
    Laughter in the house where the mourners have been
    The dead shall have music and the blind have new eyes
    The standards of death taken down by surprise

    ...

     
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  13. rational experiences

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    darryl braithwaite riding on the horses - Bing video

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    Horses, and horse riders in the Shroud of Turin history/memory got life sacrificed.

    As a little baby and a female I nearly died....hence I know it was due to radiation changes, for it was a measles epidemic and involved the gain of fever. I was then psychic from that time....and have seen irradiated atmospheric memories ever since.

    How a human can claim I am psychic and aware.
     
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    It's our own action, words and thoughts that cause our suffering from covid-19, karma repayment
     
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    "Is God using Covid 19 to get our attention ?"

    No.
     
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    What does this question have to do with scripture?
     
  17. Mike.Hester

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    God has a long sadistic history as portrayed in the bible. First he inflicts pain unto women with childbirth (genesis 3:16). In Exodus he transforms the Nile river into blood, sends billions of locust,causes scourge, kills all of the Egyptian livestock and if that is not enough, he murders the first born of the Egyptians. So like AIDS punishment for homosexuality,indeed god created the Covid virus. On the other hand, the aforementioned is all part of a solar myth which makes perfect sense, if only Western man could decipher a myth(with the exception of AIDS and Covid).
     
  18. KenS

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    As presented... I think that is a very "religious" approach in violation to scripture.

    James 1:13
    Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

    John 10:10 King James Version (KJV)
    10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

    Certainly, in the midst of evil, He tries to get our attention... but trying to get our attention to heal and deliver.
     
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    Psalm 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

    John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 36Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

    (creature=creation)
    Rom 8:18For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. 19For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. 20For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, 21Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

    Rom 8:29For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

    1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

    Phil 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
     
  20. Brickjectivity

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    I think its fantastic that people are listening to youtube instead of paid ministry. Its not optimal but an improvement in my opinion.

    Right now and for the last...several centuries churches could ignore social problems by having the ministers remain silent about them, and those ministers would, in turn, shush anybody who wanted to make a sound. I commented on another thread that due to this virus and lockdown status I think its fantastic Christians are experiencing life without weekly getting ears scratched by paid clergy.
     
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