anonymous9887
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Sure. I have no problem accepting it as a. Corruption,. It to assume the entire text is corrupted because of scribal mistakes is not reasonable.
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interpretation of some passages of scripture
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anonymous9887
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Everyone can teach truth, but we have to be careful, thank god he is forgiving and knows we are imperfect
I think Proverbs 3:5 is corrupted. The reason why is it encourages people to lean on the understanding of human teachers as the word "own" was added.
I think there is a difference in meaning between "on understanding do not lean" and "on your OWN understanding do not lean".
It is FACT that YOU lean on the understanding of the scribes who copied the scriptures.. That can not be denied. But I think the real message is that we should not lean on any understanding. To do so is to miss somethings that come after you learn to lean.
I don't think there is a human being who thinks that because of some mistakes the entire work is corrupted. Do you know anyone like that?
I think you mean the many messages.
@Paul Chavez What is the message you think was not corrupted?
anonymous9887
bible reader
Why we die
Why god allows suffering
How god handles judgments
The interaction god had with the people if scripture is remarkable.
The seed of the woman that would crush the head of the serpent
Abraham story is real, the kings of Israel stories are real
Moses was real
This list goes on and on, I have managed to harmonize these nicely.
Which ones govern what you do?
The ones I know are wrong or are being taught wrong actually govern what a person does.
Isn't what a person does most important?
Isn't what a person does most important?
I am free to believe I am not responsible for other people's salvation. According to Matthew 28:19 you are being made responsible for getting other people to believe in Jesus.
I am free to believe I need not attach myself to a certain group of believers because I understand Hebrews 10:25 is about gathering to the fine shepherd and isn't about our life here on the Earth.
I am free to reject false ideas because I have learned on understanding do not lean. I am like a bird.
I am free to believe I need not attach myself to a certain group of believers because I understand Hebrews 10:25 is about gathering to the fine shepherd and isn't about our life here on the Earth.
I am free to reject false ideas because I have learned on understanding do not lean. I am like a bird.
anonymous9887
bible reader
To be very frank being a good person is common knowledge. I like to get to know my creator and his plans, in hope of a better relationship with god.
anonymous9887
bible reader
Jesus said to live from every word that comes from Jehovah's mouth.
You're flipping everything I say. I say what you do is important and the scriptures have been changed to tell you to do something which wasn't written and you say nothing about that. You say if you believe God said it God said it. Does that make sense to you?
Do you see how you have changed the meaning of Matthew 4:4?
@Paul Chavez as I am meditating on the wish-wash that goes on in this place, I see something funny and I hope you might think it is funny too.
You make Matthew 4:4 into a command from Jesus Christ but you left out the meaning. LOL
You say, "Jesus said to live from every word that comes from Jehovah's mouth." and then you leave out, "it is written".
Is it funny? Someone thinks so!
What is written is; the moreover answering he said, it has been written, not by bread alone shall live the man, but by every word coming out of mouth of God.
King James Bible
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Mouth is an interesting word that you might study, if you will.
Mouth
That it is written he said, "it is written" means see the law. What it doesn't mean is, "obey me".
OK?
You make it into that you should obey Jesus' words that you say are God's words but..........
NOW do you see how you and they have changed the meaning of Matthew 4:4? No?
Matthew 13:15
As an aside, why do you suppose it is written that Jesus will not heal some people?
For this people's heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them.
You make Matthew 4:4 into a command from Jesus Christ but you left out the meaning. LOL
You say, "Jesus said to live from every word that comes from Jehovah's mouth." and then you leave out, "it is written".
Is it funny? Someone thinks so!
What is written is; the moreover answering he said, it has been written, not by bread alone shall live the man, but by every word coming out of mouth of God.
King James Bible
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Mouth is an interesting word that you might study, if you will.
Mouth
That it is written he said, "it is written" means see the law. What it doesn't mean is, "obey me".
OK?
You make it into that you should obey Jesus' words that you say are God's words but..........
NOW do you see how you and they have changed the meaning of Matthew 4:4? No?
Matthew 13:15
As an aside, why do you suppose it is written that Jesus will not heal some people?
For this people's heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them.
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What I see are people trying to force square pegs into round holes.
My conscience is telling me that it is alright to call those type of people "lovers of violence" because
banging those pegs where they do not belong involves some intense, turbulent ( sometimes furious) and often destructive action; which is violence. Violence also means, undue alteration (as of wording or sense in editing a text).
Your square peg @Paul Chavez? Saying it does not matter that what is written is "it is written".
If I told you my plan was to take some Chinese lanterns from the yard of the unoccupied house (and I know they will not be picked because I already told the owner that he can sell those - I'm not going to sell them - and they are quickly passing their cut date) You might think it is OK, but what you should say is it is not LEGAL to trespass to take those.
You know, if they put plenty of bricks together what they get is a brick building or a wall. Please see
Genesis 11:3
Or maybe you just throw them at people.
My conscience is telling me that it is alright to call those type of people "lovers of violence" because
banging those pegs where they do not belong involves some intense, turbulent ( sometimes furious) and often destructive action; which is violence. Violence also means, undue alteration (as of wording or sense in editing a text).
Your square peg @Paul Chavez? Saying it does not matter that what is written is "it is written".
If I told you my plan was to take some Chinese lanterns from the yard of the unoccupied house (and I know they will not be picked because I already told the owner that he can sell those - I'm not going to sell them - and they are quickly passing their cut date) You might think it is OK, but what you should say is it is not LEGAL to trespass to take those.
You know, if they put plenty of bricks together what they get is a brick building or a wall. Please see
Genesis 11:3
Or maybe you just throw them at people.
anonymous9887
bible reader
no thats not what I am saying. What I am saying is we can examine the words themselves and determine if they are inspired or not.
anonymous9887
bible reader
Jesus is quoting from Deuteronomy
anonymous9887
bible reader
Well to me you complicate things. to me it is fairly simple.
1. We have the word that is inspired of god
2. We have commands in the written word as to what is best for us
3. you don't have to obey them, but you will experience the consequences of your actions. God is trying to spare you the misery
4. God is the creator of all things and knows all things of all things. So the inspired word that he commands us is for our personal benefit, because he knows what is best. Isaiah 48:17,18
5. About why Jesus would not heal some people is simple. The Jews knew that Jesus was the messiah by the miracles they performed and the way he handled the Tanakh. Jesus went as far as telling them " i will answer your question if you will answer mine, the baptism of John the baptist was it from heaven or from men?" then they go on to say "we do not know" after they had reasoned in their minds the outcome. They rejected the messiah it was their own personal choice to reject him. You cant heal someone who does not want it. Accepting Jesus as the messiah would mean they would have to be submissive to god's son.
That makes no sense coming from you. You believe they are inspired. You believe they all are. To be true to yourself you mean, "I examine the words to determine that they are inspired". You begin your search looking for inspiration. I have looked at them looking for the truth.