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If you make over 75,000 a year, are you rich?

Starfish

Please no sarcasm
This doesn't mean other people aren't hungry.

There are those that go without.
But why do they go without? Why don't they have food? As I asked in the above post--do the foodstamps not cover the whole month--if managed carefully?
 

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
No, they don't. For $0 countable monthly income, I'm alloted $160 per month in food stamps. And that just isn't enough with the price of food in Portland.
 

Starfish

Please no sarcasm
You realize that you are lucky?

Not everybody has those, "Oh-so-wonderful-skills," of yours. I'm assuming you haven't traveled all that much in the US and seem some of the poorer parts of places?

No I haven't seen those areas. Where are they?

I had those skills because when I was a kid an adult took the time to teach me. Yes, I was lucky for that. I also grew up in an environment where that's what people did. People's memories of the Depression were still fresh when I was a kid.
I learned gardening and canning simply by asking questions.
 

Mister_T

Forum Relic
Premium Member
"easy access"? Excuse me? Are you implying something has to be easy to make an effort for achievement?

That is the trouble with this country, we have to many safety nets. If it where true, "sink or swim", or "work or starve", people would magically find these "easy accesses".
No Rick, that's not what I'm implying. Please don't twist my words.

I'm implying that your idea of "opportunities" and their availability that you say poor people aren't taking advantage of, are false. You believe that all poor people are poor because it's their own fault for "being lazy" and not "educating/bettering themselves," and that's just ludacris.
 

KasMage

Member
If you're a parent who works full time at minimum wage, you're still $1,500 below the poverty line, even when food stamps and EITC are throw in. This "well, they're selfish if they want the government to help them get food" statement is ridiculous.

By the way, $160 is, as far as I know, the maximum you can receive monthly, and it averages to around $5 a day. That's a worst-case-scenario type of event where you make no money. $5 a day isn't really selfish considering it's just food. It's not as if you can buy anything else with it considering it's all electronic now.
 

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
I feed a family of three on 75 dollars a week. That is 25 dollars per person per week.

160 a month worth of food stamps is 40 dollars a week per person.

I have worked out of town and used a mini fridge and microwave in a motel and made it on 20 dollars a week at save-a-lot. I even had snacks to watch TV with every night.

I could afford to spend more but found it fun to see how cheaply I could get by on while I watched some of my co-workers spend that much a day to eat.
 

Starfish

Please no sarcasm
I live within 10 mi. of Portland, so I'm aware of the prices. For just my husband and myself, I know I don't spend more than $300 a month--as long as we never eat out. So $160/mo. for one person is doable. It won't be easy; however, it never was meant to be easy. Just doable.
Use coupons. Buy in bulk. No convenience foods. Take sack lunches. No boxed cereals. Join the gleaners club--which is available in Portland because our area is so fertile. Make from scratch. ie. All baked goods, noodles, crackers, tortillas, granola, jams and syrups, all soups, and even soap and other cleaning products. (I've done it all.)
Living off other taxpayers, shouldn't be easy.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
A couple of thoughts at cross purposes:

You own a farm.
For a period while I was in school, I was living on $11 to $13 a week for food. It was by no means the best I've ever eaten, but I got all my required nutrition, never went hungry, and still had coffee. This was 7-8 years ago, but inflation hasn't doubled the cost of food since then. Actually, prices have dropped a bit on some items, since at the time the Canadian dollar was ~$0.65 US and it's around parity now.

And that was when I was living in one room of a student apartment. No farm or even a vegetable patch.

Living off other taxpayers, shouldn't be easy.
OTOH, people in need for the basics have enough to worry about without having to be shamed or made to do tricks to get support.
 

rasor

Member
My income is well over $75,000/year but last year it was well under that figure.However my income in my local currency has gone down by over £1000.Figure that out :)
 

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
Any comments, Rick or Starfish?

I clicked on your examples. I did not see anything that supports your claims.

I support a local food bank. Our shelves are full. We deny no one. The videos I could make at the local Walmart would prove you wrong, but I am not that mean spirited to do such a thing.

The first of the month, 350 pound people with multiple baskets of food all paid for by food stamps. The poor and elderly riding a bus that picks them up at their home and takes them to the store. Our local clinic that bases a medical visit on your ability to pay. No one is turned away.

I have a clear conscience. and stand by my statement that no one in America has to go hungry. I'm sure that some people have mental problems and may not be eating correctly, but that has nothing to do with lack of food.

It would be real interesting to have folks on assistance weigh in every month to make sure they are getting enough.
 

nutshell

Well-Known Member
I clicked on your examples. I did not see anything that supports your claims.

I support a local food bank. Our shelves are full. We deny no one. The videos I could make at the local Walmart would prove you wrong, but I am not that mean spirited to do such a thing.

The first of the month, 350 pound people with multiple baskets of food all paid for by food stamps. The poor and elderly riding a bus that picks them up at their home and takes them to the store. Our local clinic that bases a medical visit on your ability to pay. No one is turned away.

I have a clear conscience. and stand by my statement that no one in America has to go hungry. I'm sure that some people have mental problems and may not be eating correctly, but that has nothing to do with lack of food.

It would be real interesting to have folks on assistance weigh in every month to make sure they are getting enough.

Wow. You choose not to believe.

I wonder how many children are hungry tonight?
 
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