Desert Snake
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Argue about what?
The original question isn't even an argument, or a position.
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If shaivaite think shiva is everything, is it Lucifer, etc?
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The original question isn't even an argument, or a position.
Lucifer exists as an idea, as a concept and perhaps as an experience. That's all Shiva.
Lucifer is real (to some measure, at least) to those who lend it meaning.
It is misleading, even dangerous to treat those entities as "objectively" real.
Pretty good question.What's objectively real?
One day I aspire to ask a very good question.
Sure. Shiva is Lucifer. Krishna is Buddha. Buddha is Lucifer. Krishna is Shiva. Just forget about Neti-Neti.
Learn to spell Shaivite.
Crazy idea though, what if asking this question has no qualitative meaning of the people you are asking don't believe in Lucifer?
I got my own views on this subject, but I'm rather different from the norm in some respects. Either way it all comes down to perspective and preference.
Depends, usually.
It's almost as if it's a truism!
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
I am, and I'll confirm that it is Shaivite. Or better yet, Shaiva.
Yes, and my post history confirms this.
I thought you were calling me "it" for a moment
Umm "Shivaite" is a misspelled word, it assumes the English spelling rules are correct when it's actually a Sanskrit word. Even "Shiva" is technically an Anglicised word to an extent, it's often spelled Siva but pronounced like one would pronounce "shoe". It's actually Shaivite. One doesn't need to belong to the sect to know that.
I've never heard it pronounced "shoe"!
Really? All my family pronounces it that way. Maybe closer to Shew but yeah I hear it quite frequently around my mother's prayer group. Perhaps it's an accent thing? Or a regional nickname?
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Are you always this concerned about spelling?
Did you know that 'Krishnaite', is actually used, /though perhaps not common?
Are you sure it isn't ever Shivaite?
btw, I was asking mandi that, cuase she is Satanist label etc before,
thanks for sharing
McBell
mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
wait...
You believe Lucifer is a deity?
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Yeah Deity could be the right word. or not. it's a matter of what version of story your going by. Actually I used Lucifer as more of a 'general' deity or character, /that was the intent.
yes, I would, personally.
Like, with no 'v' sound at all? I guess it is a regional thing.
Where do Indo-Fijians come from, ancestrally? Bihar?
McBell
mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
I just find it interesting because I do not put Lucifer or Satan into a specific being category.