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@McBell
We can, nothing bars it. If there is nothing objectionable, they will publish it. The check is for that only. They do not put a evaluate the information in the article - that is FOIA. That is left to readers.
Why do atheists have the tendency to imagine pink fairies and attribute the idea to others?Of course, the universe is like a living organism. It reacts to changes instantly (Spooky Action at a Distance - Wikipedia).
Of course, you have the right to believe in pink fairies, no law against it, irrespective of what science points to.
Here too, you are correct. There is a lot more for science to find.
The article in the OP is in the CIA Reading Room because of Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). Anyone can put any trash in the CIA Reading Room after paying the necessary fees. An article being there does not mean an involvement of CIA or impart any value to what is written in it.
Search | CIA FOIA (foia.cia.gov)
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You really need to read the information provided by the very site you link to:@McBell
We can, nothing bars it. If there is nothing objectionable, they will publish it. The check is for that only. They do not put a evaluate the information in the article - that is FOIA. That is left to readers.
Do they? Where? In what way?Why do atheists have the tendency to imagine pink fairies and attribute the idea to others?
That is OK, but any INFORMATION in an article published in that site IS NOT AUTHENTICATED by CIA. That is what an 'OPEN' publishing site means.Please note that these fees are for obtaining records kept/supervised by the CIA.
It is not a publishing fee like you claim.
Wrong. The CIA reviewed the studies both for methodology and analysis They AUTHENTICATED the methodology. This was not an "OPEN" journal but a study that was released to the public.That is OK, but any INFORMATION in an article published in that site IS NOT AUTHENTICATED by CIA. That is what an 'OPEN' publishing site means.
Ah, it is something like existence of God. Not disproved, therefore possible. Problem of negating a negative.Thus, the present results compel the authors to voice an updated position statement, that is, our skeptically oriented team obtained ample evidence supporting the existence of robust statistical anomalies that currently lack an adequate scientific explanation and therefore are consistent with the hypothesis of psi.
That depends upon what information is requested.That is OK, but any INFORMATION in an article published in that site IS NOT AUTHENTICATED by CIA. That is what an 'OPEN' publishing site means.
The study in question was only about whether it is OK to dump PSI or there is still a chance that it may be true.Now since the study in question was conducted by the CIA (or under CIA supervision) any conclusions reached in fact be what the CIA concluded about the study.
Now if the study was not done by or supervised by the CIA, you would have a point.
Because the site only releases information the CIA is responsible for.
" science proves" again.It seems that some refuse to engage with the actual science here but instead just repeat their biases and emotional assumptions. And along with that don't exhibit the proper intellectual and scientific humility that the authors of the 2nd paper did.
Thus, the present results compel the authors to voice an updated position statement, that is, our skeptically oriented team obtained ample evidence supporting the existence of robust statistical anomalies that currently lack an adequate scientific explanation and therefore are consistent with the hypothesis of psi.
And along with that many refused to answer the question the thread title asked:
If science proves that non-local consciousness is real how does that change your understanding
Of all people to complain aboutThat makes no difference. This - some refuse to engage with the actual science here but instead just repeat their biases and emotional assumptions... and many refused to answer the question the thread title asked - has not changed, and will always remain the same.
Hasn't it been that way for the time you have been here?
"Quantum mind" is an idea that has been put forward to explain consciousness. I would classify it as an interesting but unproven hypothesis at this point.I wouldn't suspect that science would ever regard anything other than methodological naturalism, and its physicalist/materialist mindset. So there may never be enough support to ever launch a serious effort on this hypothesis.
If non local consciousness ever became an established theory I would be shocked. It would be a confirmation of things I strongly believe in for total else reasons.
The idea that consciousness is generated by classical physics sounds absurd. Whatever consciousness is, my instinct tells me it exists because of what is involved with quantum mechanics. It seems to be the natural thing to look toward.
Yes, I love the speculation about the topic as well."Quantum mind" is an idea that has been put forward to explain consciousness. I would classify it as an interesting but unproven hypothesis at this point.
Quantum nonlocality on the other hand is solid physics. This is pure speculation, but could quantum nonlocality explain the "robust statistical anomalies"? IF it does, then "non-local consciousness" might possibly be caused by quantum nonlocality.
Anyway, I love to speculate about such things.
If you want hypocritical, you need look no further than the above quote.Of all people to complain about
not engaging actual science.
You've shattered the irony meter.
As for answering a ridiculous question-
" science PROVES"- maybe you play games with
ridiculous questions. Apparently the serious minded here don't.
However as a general response, I, and any sensuble
person would be fascinated and excited about a
radical new discovery that significantly alters our
perception of the nature of reality. This has not happened
regarding the topic at hand.
You as I recall are a noahs ark believer despite that
vast evidence- not an anomaly in some stats-shows
there was no flood.
Darn silly and hypocritical post you put up there
Pard.
The research is being misinterpreted to fit a science philosophy narrative;
The philosophy of science, requires any subject to be investigated, to be outside the investigator while observed. We need a third person approach, for a common observation ground for all scientists, for verification. We cannot see the inside of other people to verify what was internally observed by the subject. Science needs data everyone can see and agree. We can only agree on output affects, in the third person, which leaves out internal consciousness data, you cannot see from the outside. We do not get a full picture of consciousness reality based on this philosophy.The research is entirely a product of science.