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Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Eddi, Jun 29, 2020.

  1. Eddi

    Eddi currently engaged in spiritual warfare

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    If there is a Demon then there must be Satan (and also other Demons...)

    If there is Satan then there must be God (as Satan is defined by his relationship to God)

    Therefore if there is a Demon then there is God

    I believe that I am haunted by a Demon

    Therefore, for me personally, there is proof towards there being a God

    I don't expect people to believe me about this but I hope people will think that this is at least reasonable

    I don't know why I'm haunted by a Demon...

    But I know that the battle for my mind is only a small part of a much, much greater war
     
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  2. dybmh

    dybmh Terminal Optimist
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    welcome to the club, buddy-boy...

    but I spell Demon: daemon.

    It makes it sound cute and harmless.
     
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  3. Rival

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    Sorry bro, you're stuck with me :tongueout:
     
  4. dybmh

    dybmh Terminal Optimist
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    Also, why did you change your avatar, Please G-d, tell me that you haven't stopped taking your meds?
     
  5. dybmh

    dybmh Terminal Optimist
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    Meh...

    a guy could do worse....
     
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  6. dybmh

    dybmh Terminal Optimist
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    I respectfully disagree.

    The mind is an enormous play ground.
     
  7. Eddi

    Eddi currently engaged in spiritual warfare

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    No, no, I'm still on my meds

    I wanted my avatar to be highly visible, so I could see it better

    Plus I have no other ideas about what to have instead of a butterfly
     
  8. Eyes to See

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    Want to come back later on when I have some time to leave a comment. Will try tonight.
     
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    Nope, this is a unsound leap of logic. A demon could be any sort of malign spiritual creature from a wealth of different mythologies. There are demons and demon equivalents in a lot of other religions. It doesn't equate that this particular demon is a creature under the orders of a specific character and from a specific mythology. The rest of your leaps of logic thus falls appart and no it's not a reasonable assertion. There are too many variables you don't account for and that's if we assume you are correct and that you are indeed haunted by a demon.
     
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    And in the *nix world, useful.
     
  11. Eddi

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    I was using the term in a specific sense, not a general "any sort of" sense - I used it to specifically refer to a malign spiritual creature who is subordinate to Satan (as defined in the Holy Bible)
     
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    You have a very specific knowledge of things that haunt you then. I'm curious to know how you came accross such specific pieces of knowledge and how come you didn't got rid of it earlier considering there is a wealth of methods to chasse or defeat demons in christian mythos.
     
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  13. Eddi

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    I gained my current understanding about it from the wealth of interaction I've had with it since its haunting began in 2004. And also from my more general understanding of the world.

    Other people whom I respect have re-enforced these notions too.

    It lies, in the past it has lied frequently to me and made me into a fool. And it is written that Satan is "the father of lies"

    It tries to control my life

    And tells me what to think

    It pretends to be divine, in the past it said it was "of God" and at other times it was The Holy Spirit

    It is definitely wicked, that much is obvious

    I don't believe it is some kind of free-lance "spirit" who floats about between people as a way of life - it is my own personal Screwtape

    Basically: my whole life experience makes more sense if you believe this demon is a specific type of thing - an entity subservient to Satan.

    Because in the past I considered it a benign spirit guide

    I thought it was my friend

    I'm currently trying to kick it out by sheer will power, and prayer

    And I am happy to report, thus far it has been silenced and displaced to a very pleasing extent.
     
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    Hey.... buddy boy... I just got a great idea ( or possibly a stupid idea )

    What if we start a game thread and ask others ( your friends ) to help you choose a new avatar? It could be a really fun thread.

    Of course the choice is ultimately yours. If you want to stick with "yellow" square. By all means.

    But, I think you have a lot of friends here, and I think it would be fun for everyone.

    Just a thought...

    no offense if you send this idea to the rubbish pile. Having lots of ideas means that most of them are trash.... at least for me.

    :)
     
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    All supposed interaction with the non-existent spiritual worlds are just magical thinking. These are products of our imaginations and conversations with ourselves.
     
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    I believe you, as a demon or ghost doesnt have to be real to haunt you. Once I was in a dream and basically I became paralyzed and I percieved a reaper sprinting at me and the more I tried to move the more I couldn't move, and right before the reaper touched me with his touch of death I stopped struggling and then and only then was I free'd from the nightmare.
     
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    Yet there are many religions that have demons but no mention of any Satan or Lucifer.
     
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  18. Eddi

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    Yes!

    Good idea!

    It's 1:26 AM now and I've just woken up to go pee pee but checked into RF out of force of habit

    So I'll do it tomorrow! My eyes are sleepy and everything seems blurred

    But if nothing good emerges I'll stick with the yellow!
     
  19. dybmh

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    Please, let me do it.

    Goodnight 'bud.
     
  20. February-Saturday

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    Demons are found in a wide variety of religions. They don't even imply Satan, much less God.
     
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