I have a feeling that the afterlife doesn't exist

[Mock Turtle]

admittedly that would be one acceptable scenario because of the dying brain but unfortunately some of these folks are already dead, have been for hours and then strangely come back to life with memories.

But perhaps they just weren't dead.

 

[Twilight Hue]

admittedly that would be one acceptable scenario because of the dying brain but unfortunately some of these folks are already dead, have been for hours and then strangely come back to life with memories.

If they were actually dead, they would stay that way.

 

[Fool]

If they were actually dead, they would stay that way.

That isn't a scientific statement.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

admittedly that would be one acceptable scenario because of the dying brain but unfortunately some of these folks are already dead, have been for hours and then strangely come back to life with memories.

But here's the thing about every case where someone "comes back to life": between the time when they had no brain activity and the time when they're able to share their thoughts and experiences, they always go through a period when they have lots of brain activity.

 

[Twilight Hue]

That isn't a scientific statement.

Yes it is. When your dead, your dead.

 

[Ajax]

Heaven, Hell and the AfterLife

And how does the writer of this article know all these details? Told by whom?
"I am told that there about 60 billion human souls in existence who can incarnate on earth and no more new human souls are being 'created' at the moment by the Creator. Out of these 60 billion currently about six and a half billion are in incarnation."

 

[soulsurvivor]

And how does the writer of this article know all these details? Told by whom?
"I am told that there about 60 billion human souls in existence who can incarnate on earth and no more new human souls are being 'created' at the moment by the Creator. Out of these 60 billion currently about six and a half billion are in incarnation."

That number is mentioned in multiple places. For instance, here: Ageless Wisdom

 

[Fool]

But here's the thing about every case where someone "comes back to life": between the time when they had no brain activity and the time when they're able to share their thoughts and experiences, they always go through a period when they have lots of brain activity.

doesn't matter. the brain isn't like a machine that retains information, or read only memory. electrical impulses are necessary

 

[Fool]

Yes it is. When your dead, your dead.

science doesn't make absolute statements. again that isn't a scientific statement. the body maybe dead doesn't mean that the information isn't somewhere.

in fact, the no hiding theorem disputes that. basically that information can't be created/destroyed it just appears elsewhere.

 

[Muffled]

It's why im privy for rebirth rather than reincarnation.

I believe rebirth sounds like a fairy tale to me but reincarnation includes God as the judge of what life a person is to get and how much should be forgotten.

 

[Muffled]

I firmly believe in reincarnation because we know for a fact that there is a state of existence and none-existence. (Before birth, living, death)
Since we at some point didn't exist, then came to exist, only for us to die and not exist, then the logical conclusion would be that we will exist again.
That is what I believe.

For one thing after the original creation we do not hear of God creating beings again. Of course that is the null hypothesis. For all we know God could be creating new beings and not telling us.

 

[Muffled]

I like to put it in the simplest terms. Basically it happened once , so there's no reason to think it can't happen again.

Are you referring to the resurrection of Lazarus and Jesus. Jesus is definitely a reincarnation since He left the body before death but Lazarus may have stayed with the body so technically not a reincarnation but more of a revival of life.

 

[Mock Turtle]

doesn't matter. the brain isn't like a machine that retains information, or read only memory. electrical impulses are necessary

From the article I cited earlier:

In 2019, scientists at Yale University harvested the brains of pigs that had been decapitated in a commercial slaughterhouse four hours earlier. Then they perfused the brains for six hours with a special cocktail of drugs and synthetic blood. Astoundingly, some of the cells in the brains began to show metabolic activity again, and some of the synapses even began firing. The pigs’ brain scans didn’t show the widespread electrical activity that we typically associate with sentience or consciousness. But the fact that there was any activity at all suggests the frontiers of life may one day extend much, much farther into the realms of death than most scientists currently imagine.

And hence where 'death' is hardly a death-for-all parts of us occurrence perhaps.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Are you referring to the resurrection of Lazarus and Jesus. Jesus is definitely a reincarnation since He left the body before death but Lazarus may have stayed with the body so technically not a reincarnation but more of a revival of life.

I'm referring to rebirth. The rearranging of atoms into new lifeforms.

 

[Fool]

From the article I cited earlier:



And hence where 'death' is hardly a death-for-all parts of us occurrence perhaps.

as stated the synapse, which involves electrical impulses is necessary to maintain the information.

simply because they can reinstate some minor semblance is not the same as the whole, or even previous knowledge

 

[Mock Turtle]

as stated the synapse, which involves electrical impulses is necessary to maintain the information.

simply because they can reinstate some minor semblance is not the same as the whole, or even previous knowledge

But we are talking about death. Isn't this about there being no possible way back, and where in the future we might revive more than we currently do? Given that before we had the technology to restart the heart most people died after a heart attack - where the heart couldn't be restarted. In the future we might have better ways of making sure nothing decays so as to be brought back fully. We put people in comas quite often these days so as to minimise damage, and this probably will be extended in some manner. But we still have much to learn of course.

 

[Muffled]

I'm referring to rebirth. The rearranging of atoms into new lifeforms.

I believe that is pure fantasy.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I believe that is pure fantasy.

Ever see how atoms create molecules and molecules creates cells , and cells create life?

Watching the actual and factual process unfold in real life must make for some hellava 'fantasy' there.

Pray tell how that assessment works here?

 

[Hold]

I believe that is pure fantasy.

Perhaps I misunderstood, Nutrition is the consumption of and redistributing of molecules. This parallels @Twilight Hue's redistribution in the cosmos. That is not fantasy.