The Jan 6 insurrection was a bunch'o
bone headed MAGAs. Most of the
country sided against them.
We dint need no "elites" to resist their
deluded belief in an election "stolen"
from their cult leader.
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I Hate Socialism
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bone headed MAGAs. Most of the
country sided against them.
We dint need no "elites" to resist their
deluded belief in an election "stolen"
from their cult leader.
Deluded. That's the right word.
Because whenever we make revolutions over here, we make sure the army is on our side first.
Actually, you can, and that would be a darn good explanation, too.
Theoretically, all governments have that level of power. Whenever they feel their survival is threatened, they will use it - or at least try to.
We, the general population, have seen no reason to revolt yet.
This isn't George Soros & his "elites" keeping us in line.
Are things so bad I'd want to take up arms against government?
Nah.
But if we ever do, cops & soldiers, who are from the same
general population, would be allies.
Those MAGAs are just deluded traitorous malcontents.
That's why they lacked popular support.
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Nationalism...the dysfunctional variety...is best
treated as a separate phenomenon. It can &
has afflicted every economic system.
Capitalism has many examples where it works
better than any alternative. Whether the
nationalism you decry is present or not, success
exists.
Ours doesn't.
Many don't.
The right to own a business is common.
Sure, corruption & power grabs can happen.
But empiricism is more useful & reliable than
dreamy speculation.
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Can you define what you mean by this? I did a quick search and "centralist" seemed to be roughly the opposite of free market?
My bad i should have written centrist, i didn't notice my error.
So the Wikipedia list is a "perverted plethora of personal definitions" to you.
Cooperative is far from state-owned. ESOPs (employees having stock in the company) up to and including employee control is socialist and quite compatible with market-based economies all over the world. The Employee Ownership 100: America's Largest Majority Employee-Owned Companies | NCEO is a list some of which are 100% employee owned.
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What of the “MAGAs” who did not attend the January 6 fiery-but-mostly-peaceful-protest? What of the so-called “MAGAs” who do believe in Order, and genuinely do love America, who appreciate and approve of the direction President Trump took our country in while he was in office? Are they also “deluded traitorous malcontents”?
It's a semantic diatribe.
Because we in Italy call Scandinavian countries "socialism" and call Cuba or Venezuela "communism".
Americans are not able to distinguish socialism from communism.
They can't.
I call your attention to a missing word: some I'm an American and I can and do make that distinction
In theory yes. But we have one party which is wholly-owned by special interests who ensure taxes are insufficient and the other party which is partly under the control of those forces, "can" is wishful thinking.
Aye, I specifically included it as one
source full of perverted definitions.
I'm a big fan of Wikipedia, but I'm not
required to agree with everything it does.
I add the word "yet". With a politicized SCOTUS overturning any precedent that does not match their ideology and the House controlled by those who are threatening (and might) cause economic chaos and collapse later this year, I won't say that the day may never come.
And we've seen all over the world that soldiers in revolutionary situations often obey the current government so I rank that statement of yours are unwarranted idealism.
A wonderful example of how capitalism works.
It's not socialism when employees own the company
instead of "the people", ie, government.
I've been trying to maintain focus upon "those MAGAs",
not all MAGAs, some of whom I know, & aren't insurrectionists.
That is a close cousin of those who refuse to accept any expert input (vaccines etc) that contradicts their bias.
I have one anonymous person on the internet disagreeing with a well researched list which matches in part what I found in 10 seconds from another site Different types of socialism - Economics Help
It's futile to discuss a topic that in part depends on a shared meaning of a word.
In practice, yes.
There will be disagreement about how much
money is spent on what. Neither party suits
my taste. Nonetheless, those 2 parties represent
the people (albeit imperfectly), & tax money does
get spent on things for the public good.
Oh, no.....not blaming it all on the "elites"
from you too.
It seems that you're reading some kind of prognistication
or certainty or hope into my post. Well calm down, Rover.
I'm only speculating how revolution might or might arise,
who would support it, & how it might or might not turn out.
No grist for your mill here.
Or should I say "kibble for your bowl"?