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Featured How faith alone changes the word of God

Discussion in 'Biblical Debates' started by actsfourthirty, Jun 12, 2021.

  1. actsfourthirty

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    How “Faith Alone” changes scripture!

    Matt 24:12 he who has “Faith Alone” is saved.

    Matt 24:13 he who endures till the end shall be saved.

    Matt 28:19
    Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, they are saved by “Faith Alone”.

    Matt 28:19
    Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

    Mk 16:16 he who has “Faith Alone” is saved.

    Mk 16:16 he who believes and is baptized shall be saved.

    John3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born by “Faith Alone” thru the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

    John3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

    John 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and preached “Faith Alone” 23 And John also was also preaching “Faith Alone” in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much people there: and they came, and believed.

    John 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized. 23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.

    John 4:1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made more disciples by “Faith Alone” than John.

    John 4:1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John.

    Acts 22:16
    And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be saved by “Faith Alone” and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

    Acts 22:16
    And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

    Romans 6:3
    Know ye not, that so many of us as believe by “Faith Alone” into Jesus Christ were believed into his death?

    Romans 6:3
    Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

    Rom 6:4
    Therefore we are buried with him by “Faith Alone” into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

    Rom 6:4
    Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

    1 Corinthians 12:13
    For by one Spirit are we all believed by “Faith Alone “ into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

    1 Corinthians 12:13
    For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

    Galatians 3:27
    For as many of you as have been believed by “Faith Alone” into Christ have put on Christ.

    Galatians 3:27
    For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

    James 2:24 Ye see then how that a man is justified, by faith only.

    James 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

    1 pet 3:21 The like figure whereunto even “Faith Alone” doth also now save us!

    1 pet 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!

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    1 cor 13:2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have “Faith Alone” so that I could remove mountains, I am saved.

    1 cor 13: 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

    1 cor 13:13 And now abideth “Faith Alone” this one, and the greatest is “Faith Alone”.

    1 cor 13:13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

    Phil 1:29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, to have “Faith Alone”.

    Phil 1:29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

    Romans 13:11
    And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now we are saved.

    Romans 13:11
    And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

    Negating the word of God!
     
  2. exchemist

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    Yes, you did this yesterday, and it was not very enlightening then. I think you would do better to make your point with far fewer illustrations and with some commentary to explain what point you are trying to make.
     
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  3. Dan From Smithville

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    Those are exactly the thoughts I was formulating on this.
     
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  4. exchemist

    exchemist Veteran Member

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    The last threadlike this was posted yesterday and got taken down very quickly by the moderators. I don't know why. But this person is rather strange.
     
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  5. actsfourthirty

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    wisdom and insights are always welcome
    And the others I posted
     
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    I wrote a response yesterday and when I attempted to post it, the thread was gone, so here it is:


    the Lord gives a pretty big clue in John 14:12...


    “Verily, verily I say unto you, he that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also, and greater works than these shall he do, because I go unto my Father”


    i have read many other places where the Lord says we must “do”, but they are not at the top of my head at this moment.


    is it possible there is no religion on the planet that has not twisted the Word to confirm the desires of the religion’s leaders? possibly why the Lord warns in Matthew 15:9...


    “But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men”

    it is possible that those who firmly believe in faith alone, automatically blind themselves to the meaning of verses like those above?
     
  7. Valjean

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    OK -- So how does faith change the word of God? You haven't answered that.
    Also, what is the "word of God," and how do we know this?
     
  8. shunyadragon

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    'Faith' in every division of Christianity and ALL the religions of the world are used to justify their many diverse conflicting beliefs using the scripture interpreted in the manner they desire to support and negate beliefs.
     
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    I believe doing such a bogus thing does not give credibility to the notion that faith alone is incorrect doctrine.

    I believe you should show what should be added or made to replace it.
     
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    Muffled Jesus in me

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    I believe this is not so strange. It is RCC doctrine that one must be saved by works. The problem is that it doesn't work and Catholics are not saved by them.
     
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    I believe that is not proof. The works are a result of faith not a requirement for salvation.
     
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    Unveiled Artist Seriously?

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    How do you change the world with faith?

    Usually our behaviors or actions help the world be a better place.
     
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  13. Conscious thoughts

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    Faith is just one aspect of being a believer :) but without faith there is no way to obtain wisdom from God
     
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    How do we know this? Was there a survey of the dead to compare their faith vs works beliefs with their current abodes -- Heaven or Hell?
     
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    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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    So much for the characters of the Bible. None of them needed any type of faith.
     
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    But how would faith yield wisdom? The faithful already have their beliefs, how is continuing their faith going to change anything?

    Me, I think facts yield wisdom, not unsupported beliefs.
     
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    My experience is that faith make one study more, and being more focused on the spirirual path, and wisdom arise from practicing the teaching
     
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  18. actsfourthirty

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    sorry but I thought I did

    have you put on Christ?

    thanks for sharing
     
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    thanks
    So is baptism necessary for salvation?
     
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    And you know that how, exactly? :confused:
     
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