. . . or nails his left foot to the floor.
Left handed people were considered evil.
-
Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.
Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:- Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
- Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
- Access to private conversations with other members.
We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!
How does Scripture define the left (Progressives) from the right (conservatives)?
- Thread starter 2ndpillar
- Start date
Left handed people were considered evil.
I do not believe Donald Trump the current leader of the Republican Party and the Right ever remotely followed the above guidance.
Looks like you just like to expose your nasty bias against liberals. Good thing Jesus never taught to love your enemies.
Well, one is to love their enemies to the effect of pouring coals on their heads. As for the Marxist/socialist/godless Progressive liberals, they are in their own hell, and can't distinguish a man from a woman.
Proverbs 25:21-22
If your enemy is hungry, give him bread to eat, and if he is thirsty, give him water to drink, for you will heap burning coals on his head, and the Lord will reward you.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
I forgive you and will pray for you.
I think you are getting off track. I think Trump was raised Episcopalian and is now living in a Jewish household environment. As such, he would endeavor to follow the 10 Commandments, but as Episcopalians are on the wrong road, his efforts at heeding the 10 commandments is a bit deflected. That he knows the difference between a man and a woman, and has a clue between right and wrong, kind of keeps him above the general awareness of your standard Progressive.
Well, as there is no "Matthew 29:21", a Progressive communist might be led to refer to something that doesn't exist, and hope to come on top, with a full bowl of rice.
I was talking about the last verse of the passage you quoted:
21Jesus said to him, “If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.
Looks like you had a typo. I didn't bother to confirm the chapter reference at the time and just copied your error. It's Matt 19:21.
How did Donald Trump get into this discussion? You must be assuming that Trump is on the right, such as being righteous, which, with respect to the Progressives being on the left, among the "wicked", I can see how you come to that conclusion. Trump was recently a democrat. He was as wrong as any Progressive at that time, and apparently, using his cognitive abilities, saw his errors and turned right. Apparently, the leader of the Progressives, Biden, has lost his cognitive abilities, and his comrades and followers follow in his path to "destruction". As for "traditional understanding of scripture", which is followed by the "many", on their way to "destruction" (Matthew 7:12), Yeshua said one must come out of "her", the daughters of Babylon (Christian churches), to escape the "plagues" (Revelation 18:40, versus signing up for Obama Care, the health care of the horn of the "beast".
I have a different rendering of Ecclesiastes 10:2:
A wise person’s good sense protects him,[e]
but a fool’s lack of sense leaves him vulnerable.[f]
Maybe good advice for you to take, considering this thread.
Matthew 19:21 is about how to be complete, and put your "treasures in heaven", in conjunction with keeping the 10 Commandments (Mt 19:17) to enter into life, whereas with the old widow, she gave all she had. But in her case, she didn't have the ability to "follow me". As per your communist/socialist, they would force the 2 mites from the widow, or anyone else, apart from their concurrence, and leave her to the threats of the lawless, by way of letting the lawless out of jail on a no bond bail, so that they might hit her over the head with a hammer, if the opportunity occurred.
We find out in verse 22 that the man was "very rich" - i.e. likely some sort of capitalist or mercantilist - and because he couldn't renounce that system, Jesus rebuffed him.
I have no idea what you're talking about here.
Your verse does not come from the bible, but is a revision from "Kings, Folly and wisdom". You need all the revisions you can get your hands on. Kings, Folly, and Wisdom | Ecclesiastes 10:1-20.
It came from the New English Translation (the translation I once heard recommended by a Biblical scholar here, so it tends to be my go-to translation).
How many translations did you have to cherry-pick through before you found the one that you quoted?
Whether rich or not, I doubt that you are going to sell all you own and give it to the poor. The rich man had good reason to be hesitant, what is your reason? As for "capitalism", how long did the Pilgrims take to renounce their socialist ideas, to revert to capitalism to preserve their lives.
With respect to giving all they owned, that would refer to the story of the widow who gave willing all they had to the poor. As with respect to your socialist societies, what anyone has is forcibly taken by the authorities, as is shown by the amount of ammunition purchased by the IRS.
My bible is the NASB, but I often use the KJB because that is the bible used by most Protestants who post on this site, but I often just use the Google version, which is generally the NIV.
| New International Version The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. New Living Translation A wise person chooses the right road; a fool takes the wrong one. English Standard Version A wise man’s heart inclines him to the right, but a fool’s heart to the left. Berean Standard Bible A wise man’s heart inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. King James Bible A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left. New King James Version A wise man’s heart is at his right hand, But a fool’s heart at his left. New American Standard Bible A wise person’s heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish person’s heart directs him toward the left. NASB 1995 A wise man’s heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man’s heart directs him toward the left. NASB 1977 A wise man’s heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man’s heart directs him toward the left. Legacy Standard Bible A wise man’s heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man’s heart directs him toward the left. Amplified Bible A wise man’s heart turns him toward the right [which is the way of blessing], but a fool’s heart turns him toward the left [which is the way of condemnation]. Christian Standard Bible A wise person’s heart goes to the right, but a fool’s heart to the left. Holman Christian Standard Bible A wise man’s heart goes to the right, but a fool’s heart to the left. American Standard Version A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left. Aramaic Bible in Plain English The heart of the wise is at his right hand and the heart of a fool at his left Brenton Septuagint Translation A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left. Contemporary English Version Sensible thoughts lead you to do right; foolish thoughts lead you to do wrong. Douay-Rheims Bible The heart of a wise man is in his right hand, and the heart of a fool is in his left hand. English Revised Version A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left. GOD'S WORD® Translation A wise person's heart leads the right way. The heart of a fool leads the wrong way. Good News Translation It is natural for the wise to do the right thing and for fools to do the wrong thing. International Standard Version A wise man's heart tends toward his right, but a fool's heart tends toward his left. JPS Tanakh 1917 A wise man's understanding is at his right hand; But a fool's understanding at his left. Literal Standard Version The heart of the wise [is] at his right hand, | And the heart of a fool at his left. Majority Standard Bible A wise man’s heart inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. New American Bible The wise heart turns to the right; the foolish heart to the left. NET Bible A wise person's good sense protects him, but a fool's lack of sense leaves him vulnerable. New Revised Standard Version The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. New Heart English Bible |
I'm not a Christian, for one.
I don't claim to follow Jesus, so I'm free to disregard him when he says to sell all my posessions.
Remember: I wasn't arguing for communism, I was arguing that Jesus's teachings get pretty communistic at times.
I don't know. There are a lot of religious hypocrites in this world.
We aren't talking about any socialist tendencies of me; we're talking about Jesus's socialist tendencies.
According to the stories, the early Christians didn't need weapons to forcibly take private property; according to the story of Ananais and Sapphyra in Acts, God was happy to strike people down when they didn't comply with wealth redistribution.
You forget, that God does not hear the prayers of the wicked/sinners, those who transgress the law. John 9:31
We know that God does not listen to sinners; but if someone is God-fearing and does His will, He listens to him
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
I know, that's why I'm praying on your behalf.
Woke Progressives are Marxist socialist, which is the ramp into communism. Yeshua taught that you have to keep the Commandments to enter into life (Mt 19:17), which is that you cannot covet your neighbors' goods, nor make false witness. Communism/socialism is based on taking another's goods to fulfill the woke subjective moral superiority of the comrades in charge. Who do you know follows "Jesus"? Do you know anyone who has sold all they owned and given it to the poor. Yeshua was teaching the kingdom of heaven (Mt 13) which has nothing to do with the "Christian" doctrines, which preach the "message" of the "enemy"/"devil" (Matthew 13).