As I understand Deism, god put creation in motion and then withdrew to let it develop on its own. He was the first cause. How do you know that that god exists?
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Here's how I see it.
Don't know. But I haven't yet seen anything unnatural about it.
We don't. There are only two reasonable positions on how the universe came to be--spontaneously or by a divine initiation. For us in this natural, rational universe, the only difference for us between atheism and deism, is hope.
I would say a third reasonable position is the universe came to be through highly advanced science, perhaps by human scientists in the far future.
This third position would therefore be a natural cause since scientists are part of nature.
Deism is no better at proving the existence of God than any other religious belief. And logic can't prove God either.
On the grounds that there is something, not nothing. It's excruciatingly simple.On what grounds?
I don't pretend to know anything important about "God".What are you assuming "God" to mean that it would capture any "reason that there is something?"
“There is something, not nothing, therefore God created the universe?” Doesn’t seem logically coherent to me.On the grounds that there is something, not nothing. It's excruciatingly simple.
You assume that God is the reason we have “something.” Why assume this reason is something rightly called “God?” Why assume it was only one thing (“God” as opposed to “Gods” or “gods”)?I don't pretend to know anything important about "God".
I don't assume anything about God.
If you believe in a god, then you fail the only requirement for atheism.I am, for all practical purposes, an atheist. Not because I don't believe in God. Rather, because I don't believe in religion.
On the grounds that there is something, not nothing. It's excruciatingly simple.
Yes, very much so, deist monotheist agnostic panentheist. From my about me page:Are you a God believer?
But you dont take it on logic or proof?Yes, very much so, deist monotheist agnostic panentheist. From my about me page:
These words (from my religion) have multiple meanings. My use of them...
- Deist -- I reject (for myself) revealed religions and revealed spiritual paths. I reject revealed truth claims from these.
- Monotheist -- I believe in one God, the creator of everything good and beautiful, a personal God with whom I have a moment by moment personal relationship.
- Agnostic -- I don't believe we can know anything about the structure and functioning of the spiritual realm.
- Panentheist -- I believe God indwells and inhabits everything that exists, material and spiritual.
Anything I believe that is not provable by the scientific method operating within it's proper domain is based on unprovable evidence. Yes, it just seems right to me. And it gives me hope. And it explains things.But you dont take it on logic or proof?
Perhaps experience then.
Anything I believe that is not provable by the scientific method operating within it's proper domain is based on unprovable evidence. Yes, it just seems right to me. And it gives me hope. And it explains things.