How could Mary have been a virgin?

[Smoke]

THe problem is, scripture is a story of fiction, not historical fact, you're the one being ridicluous.

This is the rarest of occasions, but I actually agree with Sandy. Whether it's fiction or not -- and I agree that it is -- there's not going to be a marriage certificate, and there aren't going to be witnesses who observed Mary's every action for the year preceding Jesus' birth. Demanding evidence that wouldn't exist even if the story were factual doesn't do anything at all to make the case that it's not factual; it just looks like you're baiting the Christians for your own entertainment.

 

[madhatter85]

am i like the only christian that doesn't believe Mary was a virgin? I think callign her a virgin was merely a form of reverence to her, because she stayed pure and virtuous before she was married to joseph.

I could be wrong but i've always been taught that God works in a natural order of things.

 

[Quiddity]

am i like the only christian that doesn't believe Mary was a virgin? I think callign her a virgin was merely a form of reverence to her, because she stayed pure and virtuous before she was married to joseph.

I could be wrong but i've always been taught that God works in a natural order of things.

Yes, you are the only one.

 

[A. Ben-Shema]

I actually did. You are good at posting threads with high post counts.

Is that ALL I'm good at/for? No Truth in what I say?:no:

PLU

 

[Darkness]

What we know about Mary comes from Scripture. Scripture says she was betrothed. Joseph wished to become unbetrothed because of the pregnancy but God intervened and convinced him that this was of the Lord.

Jesus also commanded the death of children who curse their parents, but I know of no Christians who believe this is moral.

"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus by the Supreme Being in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter." -- Thomas Jefferson

 

[Scuba Pete]

THe problem is, scripture is a story of fiction, not historical fact, you're the one being ridicluous.

Your evidence for this is WHERE?

 

[sandy whitelinger]

am i like the only christian that doesn't believe Mary was a virgin? I think callign her a virgin was merely a form of reverence to her, because she stayed pure and virtuous before she was married to joseph.

I could be wrong but i've always been taught that God works in a natural order of things.

You're welcome to disagree with scripture but it clearly points to the virginity of Mary in numerous passages. It can also be interpreted that others new as well of the illegitamacy of the birth when the pharases' said that they have Abraham for their father and questioned the fatherhood of Jesus.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Yes, you are the only one.

What evidence do you have for saying that.

I would say it is one of the commonest don't knows or don't believes amongst Christians.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

it just looks like you're baiting the Christians for your own entertainment.

The rest of us can be entertained by the sophomoric nature of the questions.:yes:

 

[angellous_evangellous]

am i like the only christian that doesn't believe Mary was a virgin? I think callign her a virgin was merely a form of reverence to her, because she stayed pure and virtuous before she was married to joseph.

I could be wrong but i've always been taught that God works in a natural order of things.

This belief is certainly not a part of Christian traditions or confessions, but many radical Protestants have denied the virginity of Mary.

 

[K.Venugopal]

Most Christians believe that Mary was a virgin at the time of Jesus' birth because the Bible says so. But there is a dispute between the Catholics and Protestants about Mary being a perpetual virgin. They differ on whether Jesus had brothers and sisters.

 

[Smoke]

But there is a dispute between the Catholics and Protestants about Mary being a perpetual virgin.

Not just the Roman Catholics, but all the historic churches affirm the perpetual virginity of Mary.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Not just the Roman Catholics, but all the historic churches affirm the perpetual virginity of Mary.

That is true..
However there are many members of those churches who do not believe it to be so.
Just because a church has set article of belief does not mean every one believes them.

The perpetual virginity is not mentioned in the 39 articles of faith in the Anglican Church.

 

[Mister_T]

I believe the Jesus story is a myth, but nevertheless, if Mary and Joseph were married, how could she have been a virgin? Was someone keeping track of the bedroom activities?

If you believe the story to be a myth, why bother asking this question? Wanting factual proof for something you believe to be a myth doesn't seem very logical to me.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

You will find here the evangelical Anglicans view in Mary and many issues raised about her Virginity.


Fulcrum: Mary: Grace and Hope in Christ
The Evangelical Anglicans are not separate to other Anglicans, but can be found in many Anglican churches But probably less so in the high church.

 

[Don Penguinoini]

If you believe the story to be a myth, why bother asking this question? Wanting factual proof for something you believe to be a myth doesn't seem very logical to me.

People always seem to ask questions to which they already know the answer to.

 

[madhatter85]

Not just the Roman Catholics, but all the historic churches affirm the perpetual virginity of Mary.

I woudl feel sorry for both her and Joseph had they not done the nasty nasty.

 

[spirittalker101]

I was taught that words and their meaning change over time.

This being said the first birth of any woman at one point was concidered virginal. Quite honestly if God could knock up Mary that many years ago why hasn't he since. I'm sure there would be just cause for it....

JMO

 

[Smoke]

I woudl feel sorry for both her and Joseph had they not done the nasty nasty.

Nasty nasty? Why would you call it that?

 

[madhatter85]

Nasty nasty? Why would you call it that?

cause it's fun to call it that.