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Featured How can we know if the Abrhamic God Is the one true God?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Lorgar-Aurelian, Mar 30, 2017.

  1. Lorgar-Aurelian

    Lorgar-Aurelian Active Member

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    I was working on my next post for the Bible reading, I had finished now and although I normally just type it all out at once this one I decided would be better to sum up in one longer post. While doing this the thought popped into my head and so I thought I would ask. How can we know if the Abrahamic God is the one true God?
     
  2. Jayhawker Soule

    Jayhawker Soule <yawn> ignore </yawn>
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    Confirm whether or not any other true God disagrees.
     
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  3. Cobol

    Cobol Code Jockey

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    If you like a god that likes to murder people, than the Abrahamic god is for you.

    If you look in the Bible, there are an amazing number of people that God wants his followers to murder. For example, in Exodus 35:2 God lays down this commandment:


    • For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death.

      Think about that how many people work on the Sabbath -- all the employees of Wal-Mart, Target, Best Buy, Home Depot, Linnens & things, grocery stores, convenience stores, power plants, airlines, hospitals, emergency services and on and on and on. Don't rabbis, priests and preachers work on the Sabbath? God wants all of them dead.
     
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  4. PopeADope

    PopeADope Habemus papam

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    You need to work on seeking a relationship with God rather the questions.

    I know God loves you and appreciates your efforts to study his word, pray, and seek. You need to seek a relationship with God above knowledge and Dogma.
     
  5. Deathbydefault

    Deathbydefault Apistevist Asexual Atheist

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    You can't.

    Such a thing can only be assumed due to various mental limitations we humans have.
     
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  6. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    By waking up one day and realising its all hogwash.
     
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  7. Lorgar-Aurelian

    Lorgar-Aurelian Active Member

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    But but... I thought God didn't like piggies.
     
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  8. Unveiled Artist

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    It depends which god do you mean. Each god has different characteristics, rules of obedience, and one out of two of which has incarnations.

    Abrahamic religions don't have the one true creator. There is no one true creator. Beliefs are personal. I would hope most are based on fact and they are not. Nothing wrong with that. As long as one acknowledge what they believe is a belief because facts everyone should know is true, beliefs is personal regardless.
     
  9. Aiviu

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    Sorry that I had changed the direction of your question. How can we know if the Abrahamic scripture describes our one true God?
     
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  10. psychoslice

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    For me personally there is no such thing s a real god, that is just being arrogant, everyone has their own individual concept of what they believe god to be, so why make god a center point when you cannot, god is what god is to you and nothing else.
     
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  11. Aiviu

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    but its also arrogant if you dont assume that your concept describes partsfrom that one true God. No matter how you describe God.
     
  12. psychoslice

    psychoslice Veteran Member

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    What god, where is is this God that you speak so highly of, no, there isn't any god, get over it.
     
  13. Darkstorn

    Darkstorn This shows how unique i am.

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    I understand your side completely, but i'd like to point out that it's not any more arrogant than saying that there's NO such thing as a god, with 100% certainty, without compelling evidence.

    I'm of the opinion that to think oneself certain of ANYTHING is arrogant. :eyeglasses:

    For example, this is arrogant:

     
  14. psychoslice

    psychoslice Veteran Member

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    Yes as you do also.
     
  15. Darkstorn

    Darkstorn This shows how unique i am.

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    The "I know you are, but what am i" argument?

    Ehhhh.
     
  16. psychoslice

    psychoslice Veteran Member

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    Well be childish, it doesn't bother me the least.
     
  17. Darkstorn

    Darkstorn This shows how unique i am.

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    I'm not sure how i should respond to this. :|
     
  18. psychoslice

    psychoslice Veteran Member

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    I don't either lol.
     
  19. 1AOA1

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    A different perspective of God, something else to which the word God is applied, and God under a different name, are all different from "a different God." For example, the Vedic perspective of God and Vedic names for God are different from "Vedic God."
    If a chair is referred to as a particular thing in a particular location with its particular attributes, and someone else points to something else and says another chair, the definition of chair was changed from something with all the attributes of the initial chair to something that has only the attributes that both objects share. But as per the original definition, there is still one chair.
     
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  20. omega2xx

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    First if anyone was killed for that purpose it would not be murder.
    Second, that verse is not to be taken literally, but spiritually for the following reasons:

    Ezk 18:32 - God takes no pleasure in the death of anyone who dies...
    2 Pet 3:9 & 1 Tim 2:4 - It is not God's will that any should perish

    God is not going to command something that is not His will and gives Him no pleasure.

    The Sabbath is not about attending a religious service, it is about remembering 2 things
    --Who sanctified us---Ex 31:13 and who freed us from bondage---Deut 5:15,

    Anyone who continues to work to become sanctified and to be freed from bondage(the law), will die spiritually because they will eventually realize they can't sanctify their self and tgshey can't free themselves from the bondage o the law.

    We see the principle of dying spiritually in Gen 2:17. There God tells Adam the DAY he eats from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, he will die. He ate but did not die physically, he died spiritually.

    Even if you want to take the verse literally, their death not change their eternal destination---heaven or hell. The one keeping the Sabbath was going to heaven, not matter what else they did and the one who breaks the Sabbath, was going to hell anyway.
     
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