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House Impeachment Vote, 1/13/21

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Wandering Monk, Jan 13, 2021.

  1. Wandering Monk

    Wandering Monk Well-Known Member

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    Looks like it is going to be straight party line vote despite some Republicans saying they would support it.

    During the debate, House Republicans said impeachment would be divisive and urged the House to drop impeachment; in return these Republicans said they would offer a bill to create a commission to look into the riots at the Capitol.

    This is so disingenuous.

    First, they have been fanning the flames of division this entire election cycle, following the President's lead.

    Second, do they really think that there won't be a commission to investigate if they didn't offer one?

    They must thing we are pretty stupid.
     
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    Perhaps, but then the ones that said they support impeachment but not using the 25th Amendment will look rather hypocritical. Right now they are voting on the resolution being offered. That is not the same as voting on impeachment itself.

    And when it gets to the Senate there does appear to be growing Republican support for impeachment. Let's hope that these Republicans do not get cold feet:

    Trump impeachment: Several Republicans to join Democrats in House vote
     
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    Thanks for the correction.

    I heard a law professor from GA interviewed yesterday suggesting that the House add sedition and insurrection charges to the articles because they are more obvious than incitement and would garner more Republican votes in the Senate.
     
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    They just started voting on agreeing to the resolution enabling the 2 hour debate, I guess.
     
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    I never in my life thought that I would find myself applauding Liz Cheney.
     
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    I do believe that is agreeing to use the current resolution developed. They are yet to have debate on impeachment and then the actual vote. It is going to be a few hours yet. I have CNN on right now.
     
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    If they don't impeach they'll be running him in 2024. Tell them that.
     
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    So when will the trial in the Senate take place? After the inauguration?
     
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    They convene on January 19, the day before.
     
  10. sun rise

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    Some want that.
     
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    Possibly. Impeachments have still gone on after the person being impeached has left office.
     
  12. Revoltingest

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    Liz Cheney?
    She comes from a fine family.
    (Feared by lawyers everywhere.)

    Anyway, I tire of always hearing that impeachment is divisive.
    It's appropriate at times.
    Bill Clinton was guilty, & should've been convicted.
    Trump shouldn't have been impeached the first time,
    but he should be impeached & convicted this time.
    Otherwise Presidents know they'll have licensed to
    do as they please, consequences be damned.
     
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    I get so tired of hearing the false claim that Clinton was impeached for a BJ. No, he was impeached for lying under oath. The trial that he lied in was one that would not have removed him. It was a civil trial. He lied under oath in that trial. That was what the impeachment was on, along with obstruction of justice.

    And so far in the debate at least 6 Republican House members have said that they will vote for impeachment.
     
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    I favor impeachment & conviction on this 2nd try.
    There is more merit than for Bill, despite my finding
    Trump's behavior to not be criminal, as was Bill's.
    But Trump's was far far more reckless, dangerous,
    & treasonous.
     
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    The term is "high crimes and misdemeanors". The trial need not be on "crimes". And yes his actions were far more dangerous and threatening to our democracy than Bill's were.
     
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    I think they need removed from office. Clearly Trump did encourage and incite an insurrection. This must be dealt with. It cannot go ignored. This is too serious of an offence for partisan bs. They are not acting to defend the Constitution they just very recently swore to uphold. Get rid of them.
     
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    Good News:

    10 Republicans voted to Impeach. On Principle (that's one of the good news parts)

    The total vote to Impeach actually was one vote higher than the first impeachment in 2019, even though there are now less Democrats.
     
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    They impeached? That is a relief. That needed to occur. Its a sign that there is a government.
     
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    Unrelated. But since Ozzieland puts the day first and then the month, I was initially confused at why there was a vote on the 1st of the 13th month.
    Like are we in Smarch territory guys?
     
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    I recall when Governor Mecham was impeached here in Arizona, they removed him immediately, even before his trial. If he had been exonerated, he would have been reinstated. But he was already facing a rather energetic recall campaign at the time, and I think the legislature wanted to avoid that.

    Too bad they don't have recall elections at the presidential level.
     
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