Hologram

[Fool]

can one create a perfect image of the Infinite?

 

[viole]

can one create a perfect image of the Infinite?

What cardinality of infinite are you addressing here?

Ciao

- viole

 

[BSM1]

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[Kilgore Trout]

can one create a perfect image of the Infinite?

One can't. It takes an infinite number.

 

[Fool]

What cardinality of infinite are you addressing here?

Ciao

- viole

the whole or absolute universe, not excluding any cardinalities. that would create a subset of the whole.

i didn't indicate a plurality. a plurality would be an image of the Absolute, wouldn't it?

 

[Fool]

One can't. It takes an infinite number.

thats why an image isn't reflective of the group as a whole?

imo this is a problem that some abrahamic theists have with the image vs the idea of a whole.

 

[Polymath257]

the whole or absolute universe, not excluding any cardinalities. that would create a subset of the whole.

i didn't indicate a plurality. a plurality would be an image of the Absolute, wouldn't it?

The one-to-one image of any proper class is another proper class. So, if your image of the absolute is perfect, then the image itself must be larger than any set.

 

[viole]

the whole or absolute universe, not excluding any cardinalities. that would create a subset of the whole.

i didn't indicate a plurality. a plurality would be an image of the Absolute, wouldn't it?

The Absolute? Absolute what? You mean the Swedish Vodka?

I am sorry, but that sounds like a list of ungraspable deepities.

Ciao

- viole

 

[Fool]

The Absolute? Absolute what? You mean the Swedish Vodka?

I am sorry, but that sounds like a list of ungraspable deepities.

Ciao

- viole

you don't suppose that there is a material whole that some call uni-verse?

 

[viole]

you don't suppose that there is a material whole that some call uni-verse?

Yes. Is that the absolute? And more importantly, do you think it is finite?

Ciao

- viole

 

[Fool]

The one-to-one image of any proper class is another proper class. So, if your image of the absolute is perfect, then the image itself must be larger than any set.

an image can't be perfect; if the absolute is dynamic. images are snapshots in space/time. space/time is not stagnate either.

wouldn't it follow heisenberg's uncertainty principle?

 

[Fool]

Yes. Is that the absolute? And more importantly, do you think it is finite?

Ciao

- viole

no, i believe it's dynamic. so how could an image ever possibly represent the whole.

does a picture capture your essence? your potential? your emotional and pschological self?

 

[viole]

no, i believe it's dynamic. so now cold an image ever possibly represent the whole.

does a picture capture your essence? your potential? your emotional and pschological self?

The universe is dynamic? How does that work?

Does spacetime change?

Ciao

- viole

 

[Fool]

The universe is dynamic? How does that work?

Does spacetime change?

Ciao

- viole

cyclic yes.

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[viole]

cyclic yes.

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Cyclic? Is spacetime ciclyc? Relative to what?

Ciao

-viole

 

[Fool]

Cyclic? Is spacetime ciclyc? Relative to what?

Ciao

-viole

relative to what?

dark energy isn't relative to light energy.

 

[viole]

relative to what?

dark energy isn't relative to light energy.

Forget dark energy, light energy or any kind of energy. They are part of whole, they are not the whole, in the same way a box of red balls is not necessarily red.

Being cyclic means repeating its state over and over again.

Now, what is the context that can serve as a reference frame that can measure changes of state of specetime?

Ciao

- viole

 

[Fool]

Forget dark energy, light energy or any kind of energy. They are part of whole, they are not the whole, in the same way a box of red balls is not necessarily red.

Being cyclic means repeating its state over and over again.

Now, what is the context that can serve as a reference frame that can measure changes of state of specetime?

Ciao

- viole

imo there isn't and give a perfect image. the whole would transcend such a thing as space/time. these would be aspects of the whole too.

 

[viole]

imo there isn't and give a perfect image. the whole would transcend such a thing as space/time. these would be aspects of the whole too.

Do you have evidence of that transcending "whole"?

Ciao

- viole

 

[Quintessence]

Given the attribution of "perfect" is a rather subjective affair, it seems the answer is "yes" or "no" depending on how one regards perfection.