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Hmm... probably not good (Global warming)

Discussion in 'General Debates' started by Nimos, Jun 29, 2020.

  1. Thief

    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    the ice caps are shrinking
    dumping fresh water into the water flow

    that slows the cycle and speed of sea water as the oceans do circle the globe

    that's not good
     
  2. Thief

    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    a human can live on one acre of ground if the crop does not fail

    a cow needs three acres
    and five years to produce meat
     
  3. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Hihg Intellajence Kwoshunt.
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    Oh, well...the guy is a recognized expert in the field.
    He knows more than both of us put together.
    But you're wise to always be skeptical.
     
  4. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Hihg Intellajence Kwoshunt.
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    I favor....
    More cows.
    Fewer humans.

    We're the problem, not hamburgers.
     
  5. Thief

    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    I edited a typo

    and it's nice that you confess......we ARE the problem
     
  6. ecco

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    I see you are still shilling for the conservatives. Here is the Mission Statement of the site for your linked/quoted article:

    Our Mission
    Nature and Prosperity for All
    Environmental Progress (EP) was founded to achieve two goals: lift all humans out of poverty, and save the natural environment. These goals can be achieved by mid-century — but only if we remove the obstacles to cheap, reliable and clean energy.​

    Yep. Let's all do more franking. Or Nuking...

    Shellenberger has been a climate and environmental activist for over 30 years. He has helped save nuclear reactors around the world, from Illinois and New York to South Korea and Taiwan,
    I wonder if he also solved the problem of disposal of nuclear waste?
     
  7. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Hihg Intellajence Kwoshunt.
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    Hoo boy! That was fast & loud.
    Way to entirely misunderstand both my intent and
    the article. And straight to the angry ad hom too.

    Calm down.
    Read the article.
    Then draw conclusions.
    And try to stick to the issues.
    You'll suffer less embarrassment.

    Nuclear power is favored by many who want to reduce CO2 emissions.
    I'm not a fan, but I understand their reasoning.
     
  8. ecco

    ecco Veteran Member

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    It was neither fast nor loud. I don't know about fast (how can one tell) but if I wanted to be loud, I would have written:
    I see you are still shilling for the conservatives.

    Misunderstand? Nah. And what ad home? That I pointed out the credentials of the author of the article? Sorry if you don't think it's fair to understand the source of "information". I think it's vital.

    I am always calm.
    Did you somehow think you saw my face turning red in anger? It didn't.
    Did you somehow think you heard me cussing at that $#**% Rev fellow? I didn't.
    Did you misinterpret my pointing out facts as anger? It wasn't- it isn't.

    I read enough of it to draw a valid conclusion.

    The issue was the article you referenced.

    Funny. I admit I'm a proponent of liberal causes. Some people pretend to be one thing but then make posts that show differently. They are the ones who should be embarrassed.

    Actually, I'm was a fan of nukes too. Until I came to realize the immense dangers stemming from human and/or equimpment failure. Until I came to realize the immense long term dangers of disposing of nuclear wastes. Until I realized that there are better alternatives. We have only scratched the surface on the efficient use of solar.
     
  9. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Hihg Intellajence Kwoshunt.
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    A beginning strongly suggesting the rest isn't worth reading.
    When you can avoid the personal abuse,
    learn to read carefully & without presumption,
    & engage me in interesting conversation, then
    let me know. I'll gladly discuss issues.
     
  10. ecco

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    Now you have stooped to quoting me out of context. How low will you go?

    You had accused me of being loud when obviously I wasn't. In response, I pointed out what being loud would have looked like:
    Did you somehow miss the "if " in 'if I wanted to be loud, I would have written: I see you are still shilling for the conservatives.'

    Of course, you didn't miss it. So, clearly you intentionally misrepresented what I said. First, you say I was being loud when I wasn't, then you intentionally quote me out of context. For shame.
     
  11. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Hihg Intellajence Kwoshunt.
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    You're doing it again.
    I stopped reading at this, least I reward rancor.
    Context of what follows is irrelevant If I don't read it.
    Be civil & interesting, or be ignored.
     
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    Yea, I doubt climate change will be a big deal for wealthy Whites.
    They can always retreat back into their gated communities if things go sour for the rest of humanity,
     
  13. Revoltingest

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    Yes climate change is all about race.
    Damn those rich white people, eh.
     
  14. Tambourine

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    You can't say anything without people acting offended, these days.
     
  15. Valjean

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    Don't underestimate the power of an irate populace.
    Ask Louis XVI, or Nicholas II, or Mussolini.
     
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  16. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Hihg Intellajence Kwoshunt.
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    It's a risk you take with racist commentary.
     
  17. Tambourine

    Tambourine Well-Known Member

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    But those are things for their children or grandchildren to worry about, once they can no longer afford to properly pay their security detail.
     
  18. Tambourine

    Tambourine Well-Known Member

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    Are you speaking from experience?
     
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  19. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Hihg Intellajence Kwoshunt.
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    Speaking to your post.
     
  20. ecco

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    So you consider yourself quoting me completely out of context to be a civil way of having a discussion.

    That ties in with your well deserved reputation.
     
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