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Hell - Christianity vs Islam

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Wasp, Aug 1, 2019.

  1. Wasp

    Wasp Active Member

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    Do you think one could be worse than the other? What are they like? How do they differ? Do you believe in both?
     
  2. Audie

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    I hope for the Christian one, I dont like the idea
    of hanging by my hair in eternal fire for the
    sin of like, exposing my hair in public.
     
  3. Wasp

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    I don't know if that's a sin.
     
  4. Shiranui117

    Shiranui117 Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
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    In Eastern Orthodox Christianity, we see hell not as a place where God cruelly punishes the wicked for their sins, but where the wicked, who have chosen to remain unrepentant for their sins and have rejected communion with God and man, choosing instead to hate God, are nonetheless surrounded by God's all-encompassing love, which they are not willing to accept. St. Isaac the Syrian says the following:

    Those who find themselves in hell will be chastised by the scourge of love. How cruel and bitter this torment of love will be! For those who understand that they have sinned against love, undergo no greater suffering than those produced by the most fearful tortures. The sorrow which takes hold of the heart, which has sinned against love, is more piercing than any other pain. It is not right to say that the sinners in hell are deprived of the love of God . . . But love acts in two ways, as suffering of the reproved, and as joy in the blessed! - Source

    Within Christianity, there is the hope that all will be saved--that those in Gehenna will choose to make the fire of God's love (Hebrews 12:29) a purifying fire which cleanses them of their sins, and thus we pray for all the dead (yes, even Judas and Hitler and Stalin) in the hopes that God may have mercy on them and help them to accept His love in eternity.
     
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  5. Audie

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    All three Abrahamic faiths believe Hell is a furnace or oven. This notion was started by the Jews and it is erroneous. There is no fire in Hell, the fire is going to be on earth. Fire is a symbol of holiness. God appeared and spoke to Moses in a burning bush. Hell is a Black Hole. It is darkness, freezing cold, hyper-gravity, and a bottomless pit.
     
  7. Audie

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    We are always amused, sort of, by the
    way the theos just make things up and
    then say they are true.

    It is understandable in away, for lo, that
    is how their "religions" were founded.
     
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    My beliefs are not just biblical and theological, they are also scientific. There are physical laws in the Universe. I am interested in facts and Truth. Science and God are compatible.
     
  9. Audie

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    Whatevs.
     
  10. Thirza Fallen

    Thirza Fallen Crazy Cat Lady

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    I didn't think Judaism had a hell. I thought they believed in Sheol.
     
  11. susanblange

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    Sheol means both pit and grave. Jews also call it Gehenna and it is a furnace or oven. Orthodox Jews believe it to be a place of purgatory and you can only spend a maximum of one year there and then you will go to Heaven. I think that's because Yom Kippur comes once a year.
     
  12. Thirza Fallen

    Thirza Fallen Crazy Cat Lady

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    Oh okay, thanks!
     
  13. danieldemol

    danieldemol Well-Known Member
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    I thought Jews had a diversity of opinions about the afterlife
     
  14. Rival

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    They have. Iirc the Talmud contains 5 opinions.
     
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