A reason does not make a wrong right. Does it @djhwoodwerks?
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It is wrong to lie even if you believe what you say is true.
I don't have an opinion about that question, but I'll try.If I say something that I believe to be true, but you say it isn't true, who would be the liar, in your opinion?
Saying to someone it is a lie and saying the one telling the lie is a liar are different.
The company of men who make up the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses is lying for profit, in my opinion.
The people who support them have some little or a lot of blame also. That is not my rule.
I wrote a thread once about that.How is that different? If you tell someone that what they say is a lie, you are calling them a liar, correct? I mean, you can't say, 'what you just said is a lie, but I'm not calling you a liar', can you?
That's nice and very unusual.I 100% agree with your opinion!!
A person who is being deceived can't be blamed. A person who is willing to be deceived can be blamed. You, of all people, should know the Bible warns about that! If it isn't bad to be deceived then why are there so many warnings written about it?I don't agree with that tho. You can't blame someone for being deceived, can you? If a witness wakes up and realizes it's a false religion and chooses to stay, and continue spreading the false teachings, they are just as much to blame.
I shall take the question out of its rhetorical frame and ask you @djhwoodwerks why was it written that a believer is to beware of being deceived if being deceived is not the wrong way?
Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God's wrath comes on those who are disobedient. Ephesians 5:5Verse and book?
Obviously 2 Timothy 4:3 is translated wrong. It doesn't surprise me anymore.
I'd tell you what I think it means, but that would be me talking into the windstorm.
Wouldn't it?
I think 2 Timothy 4:3 said that those who would not endure in the pure teaching of The Christ (I can say personally that it is a bumpy ride!) THEY gather around teachers who (the teachers) rub their ears.Lol, I'm listening!
I think 2 Timothy 4:3 said that those who would not endure in the pure teaching of The Christ (I can say personally that it is a bumpy ride!) THEY gather around teachers who (the teachers) rub their ears.
'Rub their ears' might mean to put a personal spin on what can be understood. A sound coming in, hand in the way. If your hand is between your understanding and an idea, your hand will influence what it is you can understand.
How it was translated is that THEY will gather around them teachers.
To me, it says that the people who did not endure create teachers to teach them what they want to know. I don't believe that is what was written.
Which isn't really what actually has happened.
Am I reading the translation wrong?
It is my experience that many people with good intentions believe they were called by GOD, not called by the people who want their ears tickled. Who would want that anyway?