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Has GOP/US right gone as mad as it seems?

All that was posted because it's called supporting your claim. It's the proper thing to do in debate.
It also shows us from very many sources that Trump is full of crap and lying.

What was posted was off, might as well posted an article on how it’s ok to vote in person, when an illegal immigrant votes.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
The polls used trickery, instead of flat-out asking the question in direct format. Questions like: "are white people ever thr victim of racism", where a "yes" answer equals racism.o_O

....Why not ask the question directly, were they afraid the results wouldn't confirm their bias? So then they used something else to make the numbers more favorable, and just called it racist.


You quoted me as...

ecco said:
You do more than tap dance.

I'm actually a pretty good tap dancer. I took lessons growing up.

I refuted it with information from three different sources. One of them referenced a poll. That directly refutes your claim that there are no "surveys" showing MAGAs are racist.
Care to address the rebuttals or will you try another dance?​


I never said "I'm actually a pretty good tap dancer. I took lessons growing up." Please be more careful separating a poster's comments and your own.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
The polls used trickery, instead of flat-out asking the question in direct format. Questions like: "are white people ever thr victim of racism", where a "yes" answer equals racism.o_O

....Why not ask the question directly, were they afraid the results wouldn't confirm their bias? So then they used something else to make the numbers more favorable, and just called it racist.


First, you said there were no polls. When I show a poll you complain it wasn't conducted to your satifaction.

Perhaps, instead of evasions, you try actually addressing the issues. Or is that beyond your capabilities?
 
Feel free to correct the article. What did it get wrong?

The article was correct, you’re posting an article that doesn’t address the unconstitutional rule changes that were made concerning mail in voting. There are proper ways to vote and get absentee ballots in the states that violated there own rules. They mass mailed ballots and had no way of keeping track or legitimizing them.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
And in America, Left wing social media has banned all Trump's accounts.
More apologist nonsense. Twitter cut him off Jan 8th. He had the presidential podium from then until Jan 19th to say anything to the public that he wanted to. The "left wing media" would have covered his comments just as they always did.

The media never censored him when he said John McCain was not a hero.
The media never censored him when he said bragged about grabbing pussies.
The media never censored him because they knew that he was his one worst enemy.

Twitter dumped him because...
After assessing the language in these Tweets against our Glorification of Violence policy, we have determined that these Tweets are in violation of the Glorification of Violence Policy and the user @realDonaldTrump should be immediately permanently suspended from the service.
Perhaps you are OK with Glorification of Violence. Most rational people are repulsed by it.
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
The article was correct, you’re posting an article that doesn’t address the unconstitutional rule changes that were made concerning mail in voting. There are proper ways to vote and get absentee ballots in the states that violated there own rules. They mass mailed ballots and had no way of keeping track or legitimizing them.

VOTER ALERT: Receive a Mail-In Ballot Without Requesting One? Check Your Status

Pennsylvania is not a state that automatically sends mail ballots to voters. Voters must apply for the ballot for it to be sent to them, and their eligibility and identification is confirmed through that process. Act 77 also created a new option, however, that allows voters to sign up annually to automatically receive mail ballots for all elections that year, and more than a million Pennsylvanians have signed up for this option.”​
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
You quoted me as...

ecco said:
You do more than tap dance.

I'm actually a pretty good tap dancer. I took lessons growing up.

I refuted it with information from three different sources. One of them referenced a poll. That directly refutes your claim that there are no "surveys" showing MAGAs are racist.
Care to address the rebuttals or will you try another dance?​


I never said "I'm actually a pretty good tap dancer. I took lessons growing up." Please be more careful separating a poster's comments and your own.

Oops, I forgot about that.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
More apologist nonsense. Twitter cut him off Jan 8th. He had the presidential podium from then until Jan 19th to say anything to the public that he wanted to. The "left wing media" would have covered his comments just as they always did.

The media never censored him when he said John McCain was not a hero.
The media never censored him when he said bragged about grabbing pussies.
The media never censored him because they knew that he was his one worst enemy.

Twitter dumped him because...
After assessing the language in these Tweets against our Glorification of Violence policy, we have determined that these Tweets are in violation of the Glorification of Violence Policy and the user @realDonaldTrump should be immediately permanently suspended from the service.
Perhaps you are OK with Glorification of Violence. Most rational people are repulsed by it.
I am continually amazed at all of the excesses that Trump performs that is allowed by his "Christian" supporters. It appears that with many of them they are just against abortion. Hmmm, maybe I should run for office. I can have all of the blow and hookers that I want, as long as I oppose abortion.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Here is the logic. Barr is a swamp creature who did not look for evidence. Compare the DOJ's response to thousands of eye witnesses provided affidavits of fraud, meh. Nothing to see here. Not ONE agent assigned.
What happened when those thousands of eyewitnesses testified in the courts? Well, for one thing, the best Trump's lawyers could come up with were a few people who would actually stand up and testify under oath. It's easy to scream "I saw this and that". It's a lot harder to stand up in a court, under threat of perjury, and repeat those assertions.

Sixty lawsuits. All thrown out for one reason or another, including lack of evidence. Don't you know this? Why don't you know this?




How do you know there were thousands of affidavits of fraud? Did you actually see any of them. Did Guiliani publish copies of any of them? All you know is that you saw him waving big stacks of papers that he said were affidavits sworn to under oath.

Guilini didn't present them in court. Why? Ask yourself why.

There is no evidence that Guiliani presented any of the thousands of affidavits to Barr or anyone in Justice. Why? Ask yourself why.
 
VOTER ALERT: Receive a Mail-In Ballot Without Requesting One? Check Your Status

Pennsylvania is not a state that automatically sends mail ballots to voters. Voters must apply for the ballot for it to be sent to them, and their eligibility and identification is confirmed through that process. Act 77 also created a new option, however, that allows voters to sign up annually to automatically receive mail ballots for all elections that year, and more than a million Pennsylvanians have signed up for this option.”​
That’s not what they did and that’s the problem. You can say it’s illegal to steal and here’s the law to prove it all day long, while people steal stuff.
VOTER ALERT: Receive a Mail-In Ballot Without Requesting One? Check Your Status

Pennsylvania is not a state that automatically sends mail ballots to voters. Voters must apply for the ballot for it to be sent to them, and their eligibility and identification is confirmed through that process. Act 77 also created a new option, however, that allows voters to sign up annually to automatically receive mail ballots for all elections that year, and more than a million Pennsylvanians have signed up for this option.”​
What happened when those thousands of eyewitnesses testified in the courts? Well, for one thing, the best Trump's lawyers could come up with were a few people who would actually stand up and testify under oath. It's easy to scream "I saw this and that". It's a lot harder to stand up in a court, under threat of perjury, and repeat those assertions.

Sixty lawsuits. All thrown out for one reason or another, including lack of evidence. Don't you know this? Why don't you know this?




How do you know there were thousands of affidavits of fraud? Did you actually see any of them. Did Guiliani publish copies of any of them? All you know is that you saw him waving big stacks of papers that he said were affidavits sworn to under oath.

Guilini didn't present them in court. Why? Ask yourself why.

There is no evidence that Guiliani presented any of the thousands of affidavits to Barr or anyone in Justice. Why? Ask yourself why.
If Biden won so easily, why try another impeachment to get rid of Trump, censor any opposition, why threaten and fire people. Because the Capitol? That’s funny. I know a lot of people that were in DC on the 6th and it was nothing like what was reported on the news.
 

Suave

Simulated character
Realistically, the American right is just like the American left except for a few minor details.

Being anti-socialists, being racists, and an unwillingness to invest in renewable energy are huge differences right-wingers or Trumpism cultists have in contrast with us leftists.
 
Being anti-socialists, being racists, and an unwillingness to invest in renewable energy are huge differences right-wingers or Trumpism cultists have in contrast with us leftists.
I’m all for using all our resources that are best for the environment and application. For example I have solar panels on my roof, geothermal hvac, I’m grid tie system and it works great. Need to find a solution to dispose of the solar panels though, otherwise in 25 years we will have an environmental problem. Also all for natural gas, propane and oil heating, they heat the home real nice and in great supply, they work. Why does it have to be all it nothing?
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
I’m getting off the merry go round with you brother, hope we do well here in the US. I don’t see it though because we are 30 trillion in debt and we can’t print money to get out of this. Gonna crash

Again, when asked for specifics you demure. You made an assertion that denied the post from the Pennsylvania Secretary of State but provided no refutation of it. You got nothin' either apparently.
 
I’m all for using all our resources that are best for the environment and application. For example I have solar panels on my roof, geothermal hvac, I’m grid tie system and it works great. Need to find a solution to dispose of the solar panels though, otherwise in 25 years we will have an environmental problem. Also all for natural gas, propane and oil heating, they heat the home real nice and in great supply, they work. Why does it have to be all it nothing?
Why do you feel the need to call people names? Make your point and communicate better.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
Being anti-socialists, being racists, and an unwillingness to invest in renewable energy are huge differences right-wingers or Trumpism cultists have in contrast with us leftists.

That's just silly-talk... I don't know of a single republican willing to abolish minimum wage laws, or who wants to repeal *all* regulation on business and industry, yet you claim right-wingers are "anti-socialist"...

Our differences are only in degrees, emphasis and priority.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
I’m all for using all our resources that are best for the environment and application. For example I have solar panels on my roof, geothermal hvac, I’m grid tie system and it works great. Need to find a solution to dispose of the solar panels though, otherwise in 25 years we will have an environmental problem. Also all for natural gas, propane and oil heating, they heat the home real nice and in great supply, they work. Why does it have to be all it nothing?

Exactly this. Great points.
 
Again, when asked for specifics you demure. You made an assertion that denied the post from the Pennsylvania Secretary of State but provided no refutation of it. You got nothin' either apparently.

If you don’t understand what I was saying then that’s ok by me, nothing will change anyway. By your replies you aren’t comprehending what I was saying thanks for the conversation.
 
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