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Hamas vs. Israel, a thought experiment
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SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Sorry, I don't know what this comment is in relation to.
Examples? Maybe a rare few cases where mass genocides were happening.
By the way. You did not say....Israel will be ok with Egypt taking over the control of Gaza? US also ok with that? You are asking Muslim nations to intervene after all.
It has already been until 1967.
They refused to annex that strip of land.
So I guess they will refuse now.
When Egypt was in control was there terrorist attacks from Gaza?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
The psychopaths include IDF who told civilians to flee and then bombed those fleeing civilians who were fleeing along a path they were told to us. That's not collateral damage, that's a massacre.
Magic Man
Reaper of Conversation
You realize there are a lot of options between "just roll over and play dead" and murdering thousands of innocent civilians, right?
Magic Man
Reaper of Conversation
Because if they were actually seeking the elimination of a barbarous malignant threat, they'd take actions that have that as the goal. Evacuating half of Gaza, while bombing and killing thousands of innocent Palestinians isn't moving toward that goal. It's likely to cause that barbarous malignant threat to worsen.
If that was their goal, they could do things like stop inflaming tensions in Gaza by essentially occupying it (controlling access to it at the very least). They could stop ignoring violence by Jewish settlers in the West Bank. They could actively work on a solution to the whole problem.
Little Dragon
Well-Known Member
I agree, and if that is true, and it quite probably is true, and I will accept your statement at face value. Then those soldiers, should be arrested and charged. As they are war criminals.
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Little Dragon
Well-Known Member
And so religious doctrine and ethnic majority nationalism, raise their ugly heads once again..
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Yeah, Israel also just bombed a hospital, they've bombed a school, they have made it very crystal clear civilians have no place to run to and no place to take refuge because they are being attacked and killed in the "retaliation" against Hamas (they've already killed twice as many, injured tons more and aren't done yet, and civilians are suffering more than anyone else).
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
It looks like Israel is copying Bush Jr. in Afghanistan and Iraq and hardly a damn thing towards the stated goal but working overtime to shed the blood of civilians amd not really going after Hamas but indiscriminately killing everyone in their way.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Obviously, but that doesn't add much help to the discourse. BTW, it isn't "murder" per se, so you've played your hand miserably. Hamas and the Iranians who prompt Hamas don't want peace, which has been known for a long time standing, and Iran will never give that up because of the teaching within the Hadith.
Perhaps that is what you want to see?
Such is typical of fervent anti-Israel apologists, ie,
continually seeking the ad hominem, ignoring
Islamic brutality as a source of continued hostility,
& blaming defense from Israel as an excuse for
further brutalization.
This seems particularly so from many people
who appear to not value Jewish lives much, & for
whom violence justifies the murder of the innocent.
We see this from the overwhelmingly anti-Judeo/Christian
libertarian leadership, who don't challenge Islamic
oppression & murder of civilians....merely clucking
"Palestinians have the right to send countless missiles to kill the innocent", thereby tacitly
approving of every heinous act.
You were saying?
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Rather than playing this game...
1) How would you force Palestine to use the billions of dollars in aid for actually helping the people vs buying arms and making tunnels
2) How would you stop the constant barrage of missiles into Israel
3) How would you prevent the incursions without harming children in Palestine.
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Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
The way Israel is handling things doesn't suggest they want peace either they way their actions are, without a doubt, doing wonders for driving Hamas recruitment as Palestinian civilians see Israel appearing ti make no real effort to spare them from violence and death and attacking them anyways.
The hospital in GAZA was just blown up. Over 800 dead and the estimated civilians that were there is over 4,000.
Now the questions
Did HAMAS do it?
Did Israel do it?
Will Biden turn the plane around and just stay here in the USA?
There will be evidence by the aircraft carriers, satellites and drones?
Who will be held accountable?
Mineretes in West Bank are calling for the people to come out and protest.
Let's hope no other countries will retaliate.
Now the questions
Did HAMAS do it?
Did Israel do it?
Will Biden turn the plane around and just stay here in the USA?
There will be evidence by the aircraft carriers, satellites and drones?
Who will be held accountable?
Mineretes in West Bank are calling for the people to come out and protest.
Let's hope no other countries will retaliate.
It's ironic that the Zionists are also committing gradual genocide like the Nazis and taking over the land which was also given to the Palestinians and other Semites by a god.
Didn't realize you were such a military expert.
It looks like you are seeing what you want to see.