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God is disproven by science? Really?

Sgt. Pepper

Sgt. Pepper

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blü 2 said:
Told the odd fib, especially when I was a kid, and a few white lies, can't recall stealing much, enjoyed my premarital sex experiences, seen porn, not too bad at forgiving, don't gossip, never hurt anyone while affected by alcohol, and as I said, haven't committed any sins ─ which would involve my knowingly doing harm to others when I could reasonably avoid doing so.
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I'm glad to see you rejecting the guilt-trip tactics that are often used to push Christianity down the throats of unbelievers. Speaking as an ex-Christian, there's no more fear, guilt, and shame hanging over my head once I finally decided to abandon my Christian faith and belief in God. It was such a relief for me, and it still is. As far as I'm concerned, Christianity is nothing more than a religion of shame, guilt trips, and fearmongering. There's no amount of inane shaming, guilt trips, or fearmongering that Christians can hurl at me that will ever convince me to become a Christian again. My mental health is better and I'm much happier since I let go of my faith in God.

blü 2 said:
In that latter category ─ sinful because they involve choosing to do harm ─ are invasive war, massacre of populations, rape and mass rape, human sacrifice, murderous religious intolerance, women as property, slavery and so on. I trust you haven't done any of those things, but considering you think they're all okay, I worry that, if you don't do them, you nonetheless cheer for them.
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Personally, I think the God of the Bible should be shunned and outright rejected, considering his atrocious behavior as described in the Bible. I think God's behavior is cruel and sadistic. I definitely don't think he's a god that deserves to be worshiped and praised.
 
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Darkstorn

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ElishaElijah said:
Except it’s what I found, and that’s the difference and not preaching. This OP is about God and science so atheist share their views and people of faith share theirs, take it or leave it.
@blü 2 entered the conversation and so did you.
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You also entered the conversation. To preach.

I'm saying if you want to do that, go to a forum section where it's appropriate.

ElishaElijah said:
Where’s the judgement, I’ve judged no one, except myself and you saw fit to judge me though didn’t you? Hypocrisy and arrogance
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You called him a sinner and others "condemned." You judged him and others.

You could call me a hypocrite or arrogant but you've failed to show it. So i think you're just blowing steam and ranting now.

And before you say it's not you who judges but god: Did god come to this forum to post that or did you?
 
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Darkstorn said:
You also entered the conversation. To preach.

I'm saying if you want to do that, go to a forum section where it's appropriate.



You called him a sinner and others "condemned." You judged him and others.

You could call me a hypocrite or arrogant but you've failed to show it. So i think you're just blowing steam and ranting now.

And before you say it's not you who judges but god: Did god come to this forum to post that or did you?
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The comment was about intelligence and from @Viker, Psalms 14 talks about that and she had a couple comments and it was done. Others joined in as well as yourself and now it’s sounds like you’re complaining and maybe just convicted.
I am on a thread that’s appropriate, not sure why you have an issue.
 
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Darkstorn

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ElishaElijah said:
The comment was about intelligence and from @Viker, Psalms 14 talks about that and she had a couple comments and it was done. Others joined in as well as yourself and now it’s sounds like you’re complaining and maybe just convicted.
I am on a thread that’s appropriate, not sure why you have an issue.
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I'm still talking about the message you gave to Blü. In it you just call him a sinner. Nothing to do with intelligence.

The issue isn't as much of an issue to me as you seem to think it is. I'm trying to make it apparent that it's in fact your issue. If you preach to an atheist, they're just going to laugh it off. You calling someone a sinner isn't as convincing as you seem to think it is. It's at best cute.

Also i do understand that you think it's appropriate to do anything mildly theism related: A theist started this thread: Therefore you think you can do anything. But you're subverting the intent of this forum. Which i think is just dishonest.
 
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ElishaElijah said:
That makes as much sense is someone saying “Thank God I’m an atheist”:)
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Darkstorn said:
I'm still talking about the message you gave to Blü. In it you just call him a sinner. Nothing to do with intelligence.

The issue isn't as much of an issue to me as you seem to think it is. I'm trying to make it apparent that it's in fact your issue. If you preach to an atheist, they're just going to laugh it off. You calling someone a sinner isn't as convincing as you seem to think it is. It's at best cute.

Also i do understand that you think it's appropriate to do anything mildly theism related: A theist started this thread: Therefore you think you can do anything. But you're subverting the intent of this forum. Which i think is just dishonest.
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How do you know what I think? The comment was being honest with yourself so what did that have to do with his comment bashing God? Seems he took license and now you seem be bothered by the questions.
 
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ElishaElijah said:
Start at #89 and follow the conversation, you’re missing it.
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I read the whole thread. I'm not missing it.

ElishaElijah said:
How do you know what I think? The comment was being honest with yourself so what did that have to do with his comment bashing God? Seems he took license and now you seem be bothered by the questions.
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I'm not bothered by anything. But with any post you're making less and less sense. I basically have no idea what you're trying to say here. It sounds like another rant.

I'm literally trying to be helpful: Do you think people will play games with a person who cheats? The way you're arguing is comparative to cheating, and it makes you even less convincing: You're not arguing in good faith.

Preaching just isn't convincing. That's the only feeling i get when i see it.
 
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Darkstorn said:
I read the whole thread. I'm not missing it.



I'm not bothered by anything. But with any post you're making less and less sense. I basically have no idea what you're trying to say here. It sounds like another rant.
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#106 Brother, He says this:
(I've never had a sinful lifestyle, and I'm getting a bit old to try it now.)
So, yes we deceive ourselves and are not honest with ourselves.
 
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Darkstorn

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ElishaElijah said:
#106 Brother, He says this:
(I've never had a sinful lifestyle, and I'm getting a bit old to try it now.)
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I agree with him.

ElishaElijah said:
So, yes we deceive ourselves and are not honest with ourselves.
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You might believe you do, but i don't think you've convinced anyone else that they are. That's what i'm trying to help you with: Being preachy isn't helping you. It's hurting your chances of convincing people like me / atheists in general.
 
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Darkstorn

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ElishaElijah said:
How is asking a question projecting? What was the purpose of your comments seen as you miss interpreted the conversation ?
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I'm talking about the part where you answer your own question:

A big nothing from the both of you.
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So you did a little bit more than just ask questions. Besides, it's perfectly possible to project while asking loaded questions.

Also i don't think i misinterpreted anything. I think you're confused.
 
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