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God is Dangerous
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psychoslice
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The concept of god I believe has been very dangerous, and if there is a god he certainty isn't human, how could a monster like him ever understand humans ?.
God is dangerous, but God knows he's dangerous, so he keeps his distance. God in heaven, us on earth. For example:
For the LORD had said to Moses, "Tell the Israelites, 'You are a stiff-necked people. If I were to go with you even for a moment, I might destroy you. Now take off your ornaments and I will decide what to do with you.'"
Skwim
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Bird123
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God not human? As I see it, we are Spiritual beings in our true nature. God is a Spiritual Being. God is just not trapped in a physical body. Sounds like we are all pretty close. I guess it all depends how one wants to define human.
Has God really come to anyone with an attitude on how to live? Isn't it mankind who attempts control? Further, what harsh message has God told you? It would be interesting to know.
I would think freedom from a physical body would be better. One would be free of so many limitations.
If we look around at the universe and this world, it takes real Intelligence to be able to create all this and make it work so well. Since, we are dealing with such high intelligence, perhaps one must stretch their mind to be able to really Understand. Can you see Method to the Madness??
God is Dangerous
Gotcha. Don't F with the G-Man. Just Effin Obey and it's all good.
Gotcha. Don't F with the G-Man. Just Effin Obey and it's all good.
Hmm.well reasoned
psychoslice
Veteran Member
The G-Man is already F.
Except, God didn't create evil, God allows us choice we created evil. The first murder was committed by man.
Skwim
Veteran Member
Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
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I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
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That is the 23 book of the old testament. Quite along way from the 1st murder in the first Book.
Here's something else Creationists only believe the world is Several thousand years old according to the Bible yet Humans have been around at least 100,000 years so the 90,000 years that the God of the bible didn't exist who was responsible for evil.
GoodbyeDave
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As has already been pointed out, the Supreme Being created us and a world for us to live in, so I'd say that makes her benevolent.
As for her giving harsh messages, what evidence is there for any messages at all? The Bible claims that certain people received a message from God, but did they? In the case of Moses, it's very unlikely that such a man ever existed! The same applies to the founders of Zoroastrianism, Islam, and the Baha'i faith. A lot of people are said to have received messages, but they are often contradictory. Nowadays, when some-one claims a message from God, we provide psychiatric care...
As for her giving harsh messages, what evidence is there for any messages at all? The Bible claims that certain people received a message from God, but did they? In the case of Moses, it's very unlikely that such a man ever existed! The same applies to the founders of Zoroastrianism, Islam, and the Baha'i faith. A lot of people are said to have received messages, but they are often contradictory. Nowadays, when some-one claims a message from God, we provide psychiatric care...
This is not really true.
All of us who understand viruses, tsunamis, and hurricanes know it.
And frankly, if God didn't want us to behave like killer apes with tool making skills He could create us without the instincts that served to spread our genes in the wild.
But there is no such God, and we can all see that.
Tom
Skwim
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I interpret scripture I don't quote it word for word. I did read Isaiah for fun and I wouldn't interpret it that way. Early on God is saying man is evil. I believe that evil = man in that sentence. The prophets interpret what they heard and saw and we are interpreting there interpretation. Its not a word for word or sentence to sentence quote. You can of course read Isaiah yourself and see if you still believe the same thing.
It is true if God exists and you are rewarded with heaven if you are good and die because of a hurricane or tsunamis or virus and get to heaven what is the evil in nature. Those that are left behind the living see it as evil because they a stuck in the day to day of life. The left behind are more worried about tomorrow than they are eternity. I have never understood why people cry at a funeral. They will all say that the deceased is in a better place, so they either don't believe it or are to selfish to understand.
So far, God seems to be as dangerous as nothing at all.
Skwim
Veteran Member
Of course you wouldn't. Your needs dictate how you read and and interpret the Bible. It's called cherry picking.
So if you read that man is a mammal this would mean that mammal = man? Again, a form of cherry picking: you're picking an unorthodox, to say nothing of a being logically invalid, way to read scripture so as to suit your needs.
To suit your needs rather than to divine their intended meaning. Is that what you do with the whole Bible, disregard the intended message in favor of making its words fit your theology? Reminds me of this now famous cartoon.
Sure. The verse reads as follows,
Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
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