Perhaps I should start a thread on "non-dual worship" and we explore this further if it is of interest to you or anyone?
Sure Onkara. That will be a valuable thread, provided all agree that there the Truth is one that sages call by many names.
-
Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.
Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:- Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
- Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
- Access to private conversations with other members.
We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!
God cannot have Form?
- Thread starter Madhuri
- Start date
Sure Onkara. That will be a valuable thread, provided all agree that there the Truth is one that sages call by many names.
Yeshe Dawa
Lotus Born
Perhaps I should start a thread on "non-dual worship" and we explore this further if it is of interest to you or anyone?
Hi Onkara!
I've been trying to follow the thread as best I can, but I'm confused. Are you saying that worship is possible where duality breaks down? I always assumed that worship was just a path to such a state. Once across the river, the boat is abandoned - or at least I thought. Sorry if I butted in while the grown ups were talking!
Peace and blessings,
Yeshe
:flower2:
Hello Yeshe
Always feel welcome to put forward your view or challenge mine! That makes it fun
I will try to start a new post on worship and no duality, but to answer you question briefly, my position is that worship can and still has a place in the nondual perspective, although that purpose may have changed (or as you say the boat has done its job). In a friendly way I am challenging Atanu ji who says above that the Self cannot be worshipped. Really I am challenging the Samkhya or Vedanta perspective that the Self is actionless by saying that both action and inaction are One. I will expand on that in a new OP, as although it is related to God's form, it will take some friendly debate to arrive back at the OP of this thread.
Always feel welcome to put forward your view or challenge mine! That makes it fun
I will try to start a new post on worship and no duality, but to answer you question briefly, my position is that worship can and still has a place in the nondual perspective, although that purpose may have changed (or as you say the boat has done its job). In a friendly way I am challenging Atanu ji who says above that the Self cannot be worshipped. Really I am challenging the Samkhya or Vedanta perspective that the Self is actionless by saying that both action and inaction are One. I will expand on that in a new OP, as although it is related to God's form, it will take some friendly debate to arrive back at the OP of this thread.
Last edited:
Yeshe Dawa
Lotus Born
Hello Yeshe
Always feel welcome to put forward your view or challenge mine! That makes it fun
I will try to start a new post on worship and no duality, but to answer you question briefly, my position is that worship can and still has a place in the nondual perspective, although that purpose may have changed (or as you say the boat has done its job). In a friendly way I am challenging Atanu ji who says above that the Self cannot be worshipped. Really I am challenging the Samkhya or Vedanta perspective that the Self is actionless by saying that both action and inaction are One. I will expand on that in a new OP, as although it is related to God's form, it will take some friendly debate to arrive back at the OP of this thread.
Hi Onkara!
I'm looking forward to the new thread - I know I will learn alot! I like your blog by the way - I saw the link at the bottom of your post. That's neat how you have your own website!
Peace and blessings,
Yeshe
:flower2:
ratikala
Istha gosthi
dear prabhuji's
please , please ,
every guru is a good guru whilst he is opening minds , every school of philosophy is valid if it sreves to promote an understanding of dharma , all gurus and schools may differ in translation , emphasis and approach , but what the heck so do we !
allthough here we speak(some times light heartedly)we should be carefull not to commit an aprada
may I tell you a story..............
one day we were cleaning the temple , whilst tidying the book shelves a very senior devotee pulled out a book , exclaiming "OH YOU CAN THROW THIS OUT , IVE READ IT , HES GOT IT ALL WRONG !" ..........on the cover was a beautifull illustration of sri nathji , which I fell in love with streight away , so addopted it and took it home , some time latter prehaps through boredom or curiosity , I dont know which , I began to read ...it was the most beautifull story telling how sri nathji appeared to satisfy his devotees . now this story illustrates two points , firstly that god may appear in any such form as he likes , and at any time he so wishes and secondly that whilst this dear book held no worth to such a philosopicaly high minded devotee , to me it was so full of bhakti that i have cherished it ever since .
so prehaps prabhuji's ......we should debate a little less and search for god a little more , sorry I am being very cheaky for such a new member
no realy its very interesting but some what mind numbing we need to develop an abbility to read between the lines a little more , you all have some wonderfull points but having read through so much in one sitting im feeling a little fatigued....... can god have form ? :yes: we just need to develop the heart and mind to see it , hear it ... ...................prehaps later another story , as between the lines of some of the most simple storys one will find the sweetest rass .
how ever dont take any offence from my comments I'm just an ireversable theist so excuse me I must be of , flowers to pick , and their lordships to serve
dandervatts ot all :bow:
ratikala
please , please ,
every guru is a good guru whilst he is opening minds , every school of philosophy is valid if it sreves to promote an understanding of dharma , all gurus and schools may differ in translation , emphasis and approach , but what the heck so do we !
allthough here we speak(some times light heartedly)we should be carefull not to commit an aprada
may I tell you a story..............
one day we were cleaning the temple , whilst tidying the book shelves a very senior devotee pulled out a book , exclaiming "OH YOU CAN THROW THIS OUT , IVE READ IT , HES GOT IT ALL WRONG !" ..........on the cover was a beautifull illustration of sri nathji , which I fell in love with streight away , so addopted it and took it home , some time latter prehaps through boredom or curiosity , I dont know which , I began to read ...it was the most beautifull story telling how sri nathji appeared to satisfy his devotees . now this story illustrates two points , firstly that god may appear in any such form as he likes , and at any time he so wishes
and secondly that whilst this dear book held no worth to such a philosopicaly high minded devotee , to me it was so full of bhakti that i have cherished it ever since .so prehaps prabhuji's ......we should debate a little less and search for god a little more , sorry I am being very cheaky for such a new member
no realy its very interesting but some what mind numbing we need to develop an abbility to read between the lines a little more , you all have some wonderfull points but having read through so much in one sitting im feeling a little fatigued....... can god have form ? :yes: we just need to develop the heart and mind to see it , hear it ... ...................prehaps later another story , as between the lines of some of the most simple storys one will find the sweetest rass .
how ever dont take any offence from my comments I'm just an ireversable theist so excuse me I must be of , flowers to pick , and their lordships to serve
dandervatts ot all :bow:
ratikala
Yeshe Dawa
Lotus Born
may I tell you a story..............
one day we were cleaning the temple , whilst tidying the book shelves a very senior devotee pulled out a book , exclaiming "OH YOU CAN THROW THIS OUT , IVE READ IT , HES GOT IT ALL WRONG !" ..........on the cover was a beautifull illustration of sri nathji , which I fell in love with streight away , so addopted it and took it home , some time latter prehaps through boredom or curiosity , I dont know which , I began to read ...it was the most beautifull story telling how sri nathji appeared to satisfy his devotees . now this story illustrates two points , firstly that god may appear in any such form as he likes , and at any time he so wishes
Hi Ratikala!
Thank you for sharing this story - I liked it very much! I like the point that god may appear in any form as he likes. There are indeed many paths to enlightenment.
Peace and blessings,
Yeshe
:flower2:
ratikala
Istha gosthi
Hi Ratikala!
I like the point that god may appear in any form as he likes. There are indeed many paths to enlightenment.
Yeshe
:flower2:[/quote
dear yeshe
just as tara appears from the tear of chenreizig
and out of anger chenreizigs peacefull form turns black and wrathfull
ratikala
Yeshe Dawa
Lotus Born
dear yeshe
just as tara appears from the tear of chenreizig
Hi Ratikala!
I do indeed love that story!
Peace and blessings,
Yeshe
:flower2: