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God Born/Borne in Us - Immanuel
- Thread starter Fool
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What if being made in the "image" of, and as a "reflection" of, means we are just a dream; a figment of the Universe's imagination.
Then there is no self, or other.
There is a temporal self and the eternal = absolute. The action is greater than its forms
What form? If everything is illusory, there is no form.
Forms are temporal. Everything created becomes undone and returns to the formless
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
Of course not, don't be ridiculous.
There is no Form. Even now.
There is no pure creation. Everything "created" is destroyed in that same instance.
Always formless.
If understood yes. If not, then the spirit becomes attached to the form, the illusion, the ego, the false prophet
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
" In you" isn't the same as you being the Father.
Are you infinite?
dybmh
דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
No, not as written. There's something(s) missing from the middle.
If man is made in the image of god >>>
and we are a reflection of god >>>
You need some connector between man and self and between reflection and father.and ______________________ >>>
and ______________________ >>>
etc ... >>>
then self and the father are one?
I never claimed an absolute. When you're within something, you're part of that something. You're not all of the something. So it's the same idea as you're in the universe and the universe is within you. The two can't be separated.
Ephesians 4:6
Peniel
We are created in the image, with the potential.
To become one with that image, we must be born again from the flesh into the Spirit.
Edit. Note that the Spirit we have the potential of, is also not God, it is the Son and the Father.
Regards Tony
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
You said we were one with the Father. That's not in the Bible.
dybmh
דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
I think it needs to be written out.
If man is made in the image of god,
and we are a reflection of god,
and we wrestle with god,
revealing the face of god (Peniel),
and the face of god is you,
and _____________________,
and _____________________,
then self and the father are one?
There still needs to be something which connects the face of god with the father.and we wrestle with god,
revealing the face of god (Peniel),
and the face of god is you,
and _____________________,
and _____________________,
then self and the father are one?
Also, maybe, there needs to reduction of the father to one individual face.
Ephesians 4:6
disagrees with you
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
Again, the indwelling of the Holy Spirit doesn't make you and God one.
Food is in me
Food and I are not one.
The idea came from @The Hammer God imagines and creation comes within. Imagining is an inward action. Alan watts relates it as God dreaming its not. Both are inward reflections. If God is all and there is no other, then God creates within and not as a projection outward.
So the commandment to love god with all ones being is an inward movement and then recognition of god in all otherness as an outward movement towards one's neighbor or other as self.
The commandment is to love thy neighbor as thyself. The commandment isn't to love thy neighbor as something unlike self called god
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