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God Born/Borne in Us - Immanuel

Fool

ALL in all
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If man is made in the image of god and we are a reflection of god, then self and the father are one?
 

The Hammer

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Premium Member
made in the image of god and we are a reflection

What if being made in the "image" of, and as a "reflection" of, means we are just a dream; a figment of the Universe's imagination.

Then there is no self, or other.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
What if being made in the "image" of, and as a "reflection" of, means we are just a dream; a figment of the Universe's imagination.

Then there is no self, or other.
There is a temporal self and the eternal = absolute. The action is greater than its forms
 

The Hammer

[REDACTED]
Premium Member
Forms are temporal. Everything created becomes undone and returns to the formless

There is no Form. Even now.

There is no pure creation. Everything "created" is destroyed in that same instance.

Always formless.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
There is no Form. Even now.

There is no pure creation. Everything "created" is destroyed in that same instance.

Always formless.
If understood yes. If not, then the spirit becomes attached to the form, the illusion, the ego, the false prophet
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
If man is made in the image of god and we are a reflection of god, then self and the father are one?
No, not as written. There's something(s) missing from the middle.

If man is made in the image of god >>>
and we are a reflection of god >>>
and ______________________ >>>
and ______________________ >>>
etc ... >>>
then self and the father are one?
You need some connector between man and self and between reflection and father.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
" In you" isn't the same as you being the Father.
Are you infinite?
I never claimed an absolute. When you're within something, you're part of that something. You're not all of the something. So it's the same idea as you're in the universe and the universe is within you. The two can't be separated.

Ephesians 4:6
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
No, not as written. There's something(s) missing from the middle.

If man is made in the image of god >>>
and we are a reflection of god >>>
and ______________________ >>>
and ______________________ >>>
etc ... >>>
then self and the father are one?
You need some connector between man and self and between reflection and father.
Peniel
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
If man is made in the image of god and we are a reflection of god, then self and the father are one?

We are created in the image, with the potential.

To become one with that image, we must be born again from the flesh into the Spirit.

Edit. Note that the Spirit we have the potential of, is also not God, it is the Son and the Father.

Regards Tony
 

Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
I never claimed an absolute. When you're within something, you're part of that something. You're not all of the something. So it's the same idea as you're in the universe and the universe is within you. The two can't be separated.

Ephesians 4:6
You said we were one with the Father. That's not in the Bible.
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
I think it needs to be written out.

If man is made in the image of god,
and we are a reflection of god,
and we wrestle with god,
revealing the face of god (Peniel),
and the face of god is you,
and _____________________,
and _____________________,
then self and the father are one?
There still needs to be something which connects the face of god with the father.
Also, maybe, there needs to reduction of the father to one individual face.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
I think it needs to be written out.

If man is made in the image of god,
and we are a reflection of god,
and we wrestle with god,
revealing the face of god (Peniel),
and the face of god is you,
and _____________________,
and _____________________,
then self and the father are one?
There still needs to be something which connects the face of god with the father.
Also, maybe, there needs to reduction of the father to one individual face.
The idea came from @The Hammer God imagines and creation comes within. Imagining is an inward action. Alan watts relates it as God dreaming its not. Both are inward reflections. If God is all and there is no other, then God creates within and not as a projection outward.

So the commandment to love god with all ones being is an inward movement and then recognition of god in all otherness as an outward movement towards one's neighbor or other as self.

The commandment is to love thy neighbor as thyself. The commandment isn't to love thy neighbor as something unlike self called god
 
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