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Given enough time anything possible may eventually happen (or has happened already).

Skeptisch

Well-Known Member
Given enough time anything possible may eventually happen and that may be how the apparent fine-tuning of the laws of nature in our universe came about. The multiverse theory seems to gather momentum. A completely different set of laws of nature may govern other universes. If there really is an infinite number of universes then one with our laws of nature (physics) is not so extraordinary anymore.

Also, the question of “how can there be something from nothing” is just about obsolete. The simple reason seems to be that there was never nothing, the nothing was always something. Something called dark energy.

More of us should realize how lucky we are to be here at this particular time, in this particular universe, in a goldilocks zone of a sun where stardust ended up evolving to consciousness, alias us. We are the universe examining and investigating itself with something called science.

As American theoretical physicist Lawrence Maxwell Krauss says:
forget Jesus, the stars died so that we could be here today.

What do you think?
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
From a multiversal standpoint everything possible is/was/willbe happening at every moment.
 

shawn001

Well-Known Member
Given enough time anything possible may eventually happen and that may be how the apparent fine-tuning of the laws of nature in our universe came about. The multiverse theory seems to gather momentum. A completely different set of laws of nature may govern other universes. If there really is an infinite number of universes then one with our laws of nature (physics) is not so extraordinary anymore.

Also, the question of “how can there be something from nothing” is just about obsolete. The simple reason seems to be that there was never nothing, the nothing was always something. Something called dark energy.

More of us should realize how lucky we are to be here at this particular time, in this particular universe, in a goldilocks zone of a sun where stardust ended up evolving to consciousness, alias us. We are the universe examining and investigating itself with something called science.

As American theoretical physicist Lawrence Maxwell Krauss says:
forget Jesus, the stars died so that we could be here today.

What do you think?

I agree, except for the dark energy part, because they don't fully understand it yet, some think it the dark matter and dark energy comes from another universe.

I think the "nothing" is explained by "quantum flutuations." According to the theory, as the universe has zero energy with negative and positive energy canceling each other out.


I don't think personally even if they don't believe in any gods, the physicist's should make comments like that relly it doesn't help science.
 

shawn001

Well-Known Member
Have you seen this?

Fabric of the Cosmos: Universe or Multiverse?

Hard as it is to swallow, cutting-edge theories are suggesting that our universe may not be the only universe. Instead, it may be just one of an infinite number of universes that make up the "multiverse." In this show, Brian Greene takes us on a tour of this brave new theory at the frontier of physics, showing what some of these alternate realities might be like. Some universes may be almost indistinguishable from our own; others may contain variations of all of us, where we exist but with different families, careers, and life stories. In still others, reality may be so radically different from ours as to be unrecognizable. Brian Greene reveals why this radical new picture of the cosmos is getting serious attention from scientists. It won't be easy to prove, but if it's right, our understanding of space, time, and our place in the universe will never be the same.

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Fabric of the Cosmos: Universe or Multiverse? - YouTube
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Physicists discarded common sense back in 1905. If the universe were at all like it appears to be your computer wouldn't be working.
 

shawn001

Well-Known Member
Physicists discarded common sense back in 1905. If the universe were at all like it appears to be your computer wouldn't be working.

I disagree, Physicist have learned a ton on QM as well as the observable universe.
 

shawn001

Well-Known Member
I am agnostic, but have had some ideas recently on QM and the topic of the OP.

If everything is possible and there are an infinite number of universes, would a god arise in one or more or not at all.

Of course to us some super adavenced alien life could be "considered" a god to us at our level.

If you take a computer which uses dot matrix and let it run randomally for enternity it will create a picture of everything given enough time.
 

shawn001

Well-Known Member
I was referring to Einsten's publication of his theory of special relativity in 1905, when it became apparent that things did not work the way they appeared to, that commonsense was not to be relied on in evaluating reality.


"If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
And since past, present and future are all, in fact, occurring simultaneously, the pictures of everything will be/have been created instantly, will, in fact, already have been created, will have always existed.

Reality is really, really wierd, ain't it?:rolleyes:
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
And since past, present and future are all, in fact, occurring simultaneously, the pictures of everything will be/have been created instantly, will, in fact, already have been created, will have always existed.
Reality is really, really wierd, ain't it?:rolleyes:
This might be a useful alternate way of seeing things, but to say "in fact" is a real stretch.
 

Skeptisch

Well-Known Member
Yes, didn't think that quote was needed.
You are right, it was not needed but does it not go well with this part of the OP?
“More of us should realize how lucky we are to be here at this particular time, in this particular universe, in a goldilocks zone of a sun where stardust ended up evolving to consciousness, alias us. We are the universe examining and investigating itself with something called science”.
 

shawn001

Well-Known Member
And since past, present and future are all, in fact, occurring simultaneously, the pictures of everything will be/have been created instantly, will, in fact, already have been created, will have always existed.

Reality is really, really wierd, ain't it?:rolleyes:

Not only that but two places at once. ;)

Of course in this universe we seem to have, by illusion or not, of time flowing in one direction.


I hear what your saying though.
 

shawn001

Well-Known Member
You are right, it was not needed but does it not go well with this part of the OP?
“More of us should realize how lucky we are to be here at this particular time, in this particular universe, in a goldilocks zone of a sun where stardust ended up evolving to consciousness, alias us. We are the universe examining and investigating itself with something called science”.

I concur totally.
 
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