GEORGIA BATHROOM PIPE BURST IS A FRAUD GUSHER IMO

[Subduction Zone]

@KenS ,

I found this today while researching the most recent law suit filed in Georgia. According to Fox News, the allegation in Fulton County does not include a burst water pipe. See below:

"Trump and the Republican voter also allege that Fulton County election officials lied to Republican poll watchers at 10 p.m. on Election Day, telling them that they were done working for the day. "

Trump files latest lawsuit in Georgia challenging election result

This supports my previous statement that the water pipe was unrelated to the video based on the time the video was taken.

The burst toilet appears to be part of a false narrative concocted by those trying to put a false spin on that video. Republican officials from Georgia have explained that no funny business was going on. One job was done, and those people left. Perhaps the observers misunderstood what was going on, but the workers kept on doing their job. They were not "caught" since most people know that one is under surveillance when doing that sort of job. They did not care that the cameras were there since they were only doing the job that they were supposed to be doing.

 

[Kenny]

I found this today while researching the most recent law suit filed in Georgia. According to Fox News, the allegation in Fulton County does not include a burst water pipe. See below:

Yes... it isn't part of the lawsuit. Saying that the pipe burst isn't sufficient to file a lawsuit. My mentioning it was simply as a point of information.

 

[Kenny]

The burst toilet appears to be part of a false narrative concocted by those trying to put a false spin on that video. Republican officials from Georgia have explained that no funny business was going on. One job was done, and those people left. Perhaps the observers misunderstood what was going on, but the workers kept on doing their job. They were not "caught" since most people know that one is under surveillance when doing that sort of job. They did not care that the cameras were there since they were only doing the job that they were supposed to be doing.

They were not supposed to count.

MSN put a false narrative? Or was it just plain "false - a lie"?

Burst pipe delays Atlanta absentee vote counting

 

[dybmh]

Yes... it isn't part of the lawsuit. Saying that the pipe burst isn't sufficient to file a lawsuit. My mentioning it was simply as a point of information.

Let's be fair.

The pipe burst is the focus of the OP. You call it a gusher in the title. But the truth is, it's irrelevant. As we have continued to research this matter, what's left is one person's word against another. The republican observers claim they were asked to leave. The election officials say they weren't.

That's it. Remember what was said in the OP?

You wanted evidence... here it is.

Yet again, there was a claim made that there's evidence of fraud. But there isn't. It's just a story. A "What if" story. See below:

Was it the same in Detroit? Chicago? Atlanta?

What if while the observers were absent there was fraud? What if the same happened in Detroit, Chicago, Atlanta? It's the same pattern repeated again from the previous threads you've started on voter fraud. If you listen carefully to the facts, there is no evidence. They are just "what ifs" based on republican observers who are not satisfied with their access ( or lack there-of ).

Now. What happened in Detroit? In a previous thread you provide the video of a hearing where the same accusation was made about the observers. They were said to be arrested and denied access. When I researched it, there was one observer who was escorted, not arrested, out of the building after refusing to leave. He was asked to leave because the room was at capacity due to ( drum-roll ) too many observers. You can look it up and see the pictures of the observers present. So the person who claimed observers were denied access and arrested was not providing accurate information. It's another example of the information being exaggerated by the sources you provide. Further, your attempt to group together what happened in Georgia with what happened in Detroit is a false narrative. The two are completely unrelated.

But moving back to the information provided just in this thread; Trump's twitter feed and video clips from OAN should not be trusted to give you accurate information about voter fraud. Researching the issue has demonstrated that.

 

[Subduction Zone]

They were not supposed to count.

MSN put a false narrative? Or was it just plain "false - a lie"?

Burst pipe delays Atlanta absentee vote counting

The problem is that that may not even be the same room. It does not say or imply that all counting stopped. Only that counting stopped in a room. It would not be the first time two stories were mixed up and combined to get a new incorrect one. What we do know is that the narrative given for the video has been shown to be wrong.

 

[Kenny]

Let's be fair.

The pipe burst is the focus of the OP. You call it a gusher in the title. But the truth is, it's irrelevant. As we have continued to research this matter, what's left is one person's word against another. The republican observers claim they were asked to leave. The election officials say they weren't.

That's it. Remember what was said in the OP?



Yet again, there was a claim made that there's evidence of fraud. But there isn't. It's just a story. A "What if" story. See below:



What if while the observers were absent there was fraud? What if the same happened in Detroit, Chicago, Atlanta? It's the same pattern repeated again from the previous threads you've started on voter fraud. If you listen carefully to the facts, there is no evidence. They are just "what ifs" based on republican observers who are not satisfied with their access ( or lack there-of ).

Now. What happened in Detroit? In a previous thread you provide the video of a hearing where the same accusation was made about the observers. They were said to be arrested and denied access. When I researched it, there was one observer who was escorted, not arrested, out of the building after refusing to leave. He was asked to leave because the room was at capacity due to ( drum-roll ) too many observers. You can look it up and see the pictures of the observers present. So the person who claimed observers were denied access and arrested was not providing accurate information. It's another example of the information being exaggerated by the sources you provide. Further, your attempt to group together what happened in Georgia with what happened in Detroit is a false narrative. The two are completely unrelated.

But moving back to the information provided just in this thread; Trump's twitter feed and video clips from OAN should not be trusted to give you accurate information about voter fraud. Researching the issue has demonstrated that.

I think that is a little unfair. The pipe burst was not the issue (although it was used) - the issue was the unfair and illegal counting that happened because of it.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I think that is a little unfair. The pipe burst was not the issue (although it was used) - the issue was the unfair and illegal counting that happened because of it.

How do you know that it was used? That is not what the Republican state officials claimed.

 

[dybmh]

I think that is a little unfair. The pipe burst was not the issue (although it was used) - the issue was the unfair and illegal counting that happened because of it.

Just to be sure we agree and understand each other? The issue is lack of observers. That's it, right? Anything else is "What if the votes were tampered with or counted repeatedly while no one was looking?"

My point is, just because there weren't observers doesn't mean that there was fraud. That's an assumption.

 

[Prim969]

The "bets"? It does not matter. There are still some lawsuits out there. What delusional people do does not matter either. Trump lost.

Subduction Zone. The live bets do matter because that means the election winner hasn’t been called legal yet. As to the delusional people. Who do you mean? Do you mean the 80 percent of republicans and a minority of democrats who believe the election was stolen like a thief does in the twilight hours of darkest night. Some law suits you say. Actually quite a lot not some.

 

[Prim969]

Correction, there may have been some very minor fraud. There usually is some cheating. But we know that there was no significant fraud. Of the countless lawsuits brought up most were insignificant. Even if the Trump side had won they would not have changed the outcome. The lawsuits were just a huge temper tantrum by sore losers. They had nothing to do with reality.

Minor fraud. Yes there is always some minor fraud in some or maybe many elections. Only this is much bigger and vast in comparison. The accusations are of major fraud.over a number states not minor. You have hundreds of sworn affidavits that are continuing to pour in. As to sore losers I guess when a election is won by 10:00pm and people awake the next day to find 4 -5 states that have turned democratic or about to in very dramatic circumstances. I can kinda understand why they might just want to do some investigating.

 

[ecco]

Several days ago Guiliani sat before legislators in Michigan and tried to argue his case, whatever it was. His star witness was a drunk woman (Melissa Carone) who was a complete disaster.

Last night Saturday Night Live did a spot-on parody with Cecily Strong as the drunk woman.

@KenS,
You really must try to understand, the world is laughing at all the sheeples and their silly protestations. The sheeples are an embarrassment but, nevertheless, a source of comedy. The SNL parody was something to laugh with; The people in the actual hearing, Guiliani and Carone were something to laugh at.

 

[ecco]

Do you mean the 80 percent of republicans and a minority of democrats who believe the election was stolen

Can you name some prominent Democrats "who believe the election was stolen"?

Some law suits you say. Actually quite a lot not some.

Yes indeed - many lawsuits. Over forty. All but one either dismissed or found in favor of the defendants.

Perhaps you should google "mich vote suit" and read some of the articles that show the "evidence" and why the courts threw them out.

You should, but you won't, It would be too painful to actually accept why Orange Man lost - the majority of Americans wanted him out.

 

[ecco]

Only this is much bigger and vast in comparison. The accusations are of major fraud.over a number states not minor.

The key word being "accusations". In case you are not familiar with the law, an accusation is proof of nothing.

You have hundreds of sworn affidavits that are continuing to pour in.

In case you are not familiar with the law, an affidavit is proof of nothing. In one of the over 40 cases dismissed or found for the defendants, Melissa Carone's affidavit stated that voting machines broke down multiple times per hour and ballots were recounted. No one corroborated her allegation. NO ONE. The judge found her allegation to be uncredible.

uncredible (comparative more uncredible, superlative most uncredible)​

Not credible; that cannot be believed.
a parade of uncredible witnesses

As to sore losers I guess when a election is won by 10:00pm and people awake the next day to find 4 -5 states that have turned democratic or about to in very dramatic circumstances. I can kinda understand why they might just what to do some investigating.

Why do wish to remain ignorant of how the process works? There are multiple articles, and court findings, that explain why this happened.

Trump told his people to vote in person. Dems pushed COVID safe mail-ins.

In-person votes are counted first - Trump gets a lead.
Then mail-ins are counted - Biden wins.

Is that really too hard to understand? Or is it just something you cannot bring yourself to believe?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Subduction Zone. The live bets do matter because that means the election winner hasn’t been called legal yet. As to the delusional people. Who do you mean? Do you mean the 80 percent of republicans and a minority of democrats who believe the election was stolen like a thief does in the twilight hours of darkest night. Some law suits you say. Actually quite a lot not some.

Las Vegas has its own rules. They have to have set standards so that people will place their bets. Those rules have a limited relationship to reality.

And I wouldn't be so quick to claim that 80% of Republicans were ignorant fools.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The key word being "accusations". In case you are not familiar with the law, an accusation is proof of nothing.




In case you are not familiar with the law, an affidavit is proof of nothing. In one of the over 40 cases dismissed or found for the defendants, Melissa Carone's affidavit stated that voting machines broke down multiple times per hour and ballots were recounted. No one corroborated her allegation. NO ONE. The judge found her allegation to be uncredible.

uncredible (comparative more uncredible, superlative most uncredible)​

Not credible; that cannot be believed.
a parade of uncredible witnesses






Why do wish to remain ignorant of how the process works? There are multiple articles, and court findings, that explain why this happened.

Trump told his people to vote in person. Dems pushed COVID safe mail-ins.

In-person votes are counted first - Trump gets a lead.
Then mail-ins are counted - Biden wins.

Is that really too hard to understand? Or is it just something you cannot bring yourself to believe?

Except in a handful of states where the early votes and mail in ballots were counted ahead of time. In Ohio Biden had the early lead because they could do that. Then when the voting at the polls came in Trump caught and passed him. The patter we saw on as not a pattern of cheating.

 

[McBell]

Minor fraud. Yes there is always some minor fraud in some or maybe many elections. Only this is much bigger and vast in comparison. The accusations are of major fraud.over a number states not minor. You have hundreds of sworn affidavits that are continuing to pour in. As to sore losers I guess when a election is won by 10:00pm and people awake the next day to find 4 -5 states that have turned democratic or about to in very dramatic circumstances. I can kinda understand why they might just want to do some investigating.

Oh my yes.
There are all manner of accusations.
According to the accusations this years election is nothing but fraud.
Until it gets to court.
Then, absolutely nothing to support the alleged huge fraud being claimed.
They know they have nothing to the point they are "forgetting" to pay the filing fees....

 

[Subduction Zone]

Oh my yes.
There are all manner of accusations.
According to the accusations this years election is nothing but fraud.
Until it gets to court.
Then, absolutely nothing to support the alleged huge fraud being claimed.
They know they have nothing to the point they are "forgetting" to pay the filing fees....

Lawyers tend to understand when they have the burden of proof and they also understand the concept of evidence. They know that if they claim "fraud" that puts a huge burden of proof upon them. They also understand the quality of "evidence" that exists. They know that they would lose with their poor evidence so they try to find other arguments.

It is not working.