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Genie in a Cross: Popular Cleric Abdul Somad Reported to Police for Mocking Christian Symbol

Discussion in 'Religious News' started by danieldemol, Aug 23, 2019.

  1. danieldemol

    danieldemol Well-Known Member
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    ‘Jakarta. Abdul Somad, a popular Islamic cleric, is facing a series of blasphemy charges after a video went viral showing him telling a crowd that the Christian crucifix is the dwelling place for an "infidel jinn."

    Blasphemy accusations on a preacher of Islam, the religion of over 80 percent of Indonesians, has put a new spin on the country's problematic blasphemy law, which in the past has mostly been used to prosecute members of religious minorities.

    The video, which was uploaded on Saturday, showed the cleric talking about the figure of Jesus on the cross to a rapt audience.

    "A woman asked me once, 'Why do I get the chills whenever I think about a crucifix?' Because there is an infidel jinn in the crucifix, because of the statue [of Christ] on it [...]. We should never worship a statue," Somad said in the video.

    "If we [Muslims] had to stay in a hospital and we see a crucifix there, cover it up, or we will die as an infidel. We should not let ourselves be transported in an ambulance with a crucifix on it, or let people sing 'Hallelujah' to us. God forbid, we would die as an infidel," he said in the video.’

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  2. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Hihg Intellajence Kwoshunt.
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    People be crazy.
     
  3. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    I see this is coming from Indonesia. Kind of explains it.

    Stuck on an island and all that.
     
  4. Stevicus

    Stevicus Veteran Member
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    I don't know too much about genies, other than what I've learned from I Dream of Jeannie. But considering that she managed to turn an honorable and decent astronaut and Air Force officer into an evil oil tycoon, then maybe genies are not all that they're cracked up to be.
     
  5. Left Coast

    Left Coast Black Lives Matter
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    I'm not sure which is more ridiculous - this guy's religious views or the fact that he's being charged with a crime for them.
     
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  6. ecco

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    To me, neither is ridiculous. Both are very scary.
     
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  7. sun rise

    sun rise "Let there be peace and love among all"
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    Some quotes utterly stick in my mind because of how true they are

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  8. danieldemol

    danieldemol Well-Known Member
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    For most of it I agree with what you say, but for the last line about not letting people sing hallelujah to you I wondered if that qualifies as hate speech because it seems to be advocating taking away another groups freedom of speech on religious grounds.

    That being said the charge of blasphemy is utterly ridiculous.
     
  9. Saint Frankenstein

    Saint Frankenstein Before there was love, there was silence
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    "Hallelujah" means "praise to God" if I remember correctly so I don't know what his problem is with it.
     
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  10. Musing Bassist

    Musing Bassist Possible Yithian

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    The cynic in me doubts the ulema would be calling for such restraint had the roles been reversed.
     
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