Gay Frogs

[The Hammer]

Spoiler: Fowl language

-Alex Jones

 

[Subduction Zone]

I always love the classics.

 

[The Hammer]

I always love the classics.

I'm almost ashamed to say it's my first time hearing this gem.

 

[Mock Turtle]

I'm sure many would prefer him over Trump.

 

[VoidCat]

I'm almost ashamed to say it's my first time hearing this gem.

Im fine with it i get to watch it again due to you posting it having not seen ot

 

[Subduction Zone]

Im fine with it i get to watch it again due to you posting it having not seen ot

And you don't hear me screaming at him to take it down either. Some people should be made fund of on a regular occasion. Alex Jones definitely is in that category. Do you know what he did to the parents of the Sandy Hook Massacre victims?

 

[VoidCat]

And you don't hear me screaming at him to take it down either. Some people should be made fund of on a regular occasion. Alex Jones definitely is in that category. Do you know what he did to the parents of the Sandy Hook Massacre victims?

No what happened?

 

[Subduction Zone]

No what happened?

The Sandy Hook massacre was of an elementary school. Twenty six people were killed twenty of them being between six and seven years old. Alex Jones claimed it was a fake on his YouTube show and other media outlets. He had millions of followers. He advocated harassing those poor parents because he believed his own made up conspiracy theory. And it was rather significant harassment. He was eventually sued for this and he lost.

Alex Jones: Five Things to Know

I have no pity for the man whatsoever.

 

[VoidCat]

The Sandy Hook massacre was of an elementary school. Twenty six people were killed twenty of them being between six and seven years old. Alex Jones claimed it was a fake on his YouTube show and other media outlets. He had millions of followers. He advocated harassing those poor parents because he believed his own made up conspiracy theory. And it was rather significant harassment. He was eventually sued for this and he lost.

Alex Jones: Five Things to Know

I have no pity for the man whatsoever.

That is horrible

 

[Subduction Zone]

That is horrible

Sorry. Sometimes it is preferrable that as few people as possible know how evil some humans can be. If Alex Jones disappeared from all records and lived the rest of his life a broke, lonely, wretched man that would be justice.

 

[VoidCat]

Sorry. Sometimes it is preferrable that as few people as possible know how evil some humans can be. If Alex Jones disappeared from all records and lived the rest of his life a broke, lonely, wretched man that would be justice.

Why on earth would someone do that?
Like jeez that's horrible. Those poor parents

 

[Revoltingest]

What about gay frogs?
@ChristineM?

 

[ChristineM]

What about gay frogs?
@ChristineM?

Yup there are some, in our tiny village there are 6 gay frogs, 4 gay Brits and a lonely Dutchman

 

[Stevicus]

These frogs are not gay (not that there's anything wrong with that).

 

[Revoltingest]

These frogs are not gay (not that there's anything wrong with that).

If not gay, then why their fascination with singing & dancing, eh.

 

[Stevicus]

If not gay, then why their fascination with singing & dancing, eh.

Singing and dancing appeals to everyone.

 

[Revoltingest]

Singing and dancing appeals to everyone.

We repressed folk don't do that.
But gays...they just can't hide their fabulousness.

 

[Stevicus]

We repressed folk don't do that.
But gays...they just can't hide their fabulousness.

Well, it depends. Headbangers might play a mean air guitar and sing along.

...

On second thought, maybe that wasn't the best example to use.

 

[The Hammer]

We repressed folk don't do that.
But gays...they just can't hide their fabulousness.

 

[Stevicus]

Spoiler: Fowl language

-Alex Jones

Frogs Keep Mating With the Wrong Things - The Atlantic

Two years ago, Juan Díaz Ricaurte was hiking through the mountains of Brazil when a male yellow cururu toad affixed itself to his boot. Díaz Ricaurte gently detached the frog and set it back on the ground, several feet away; undeterred, it bounded back over and wrapped its arms around the shoe again. “It was super focused on grabbing Juan’s boot,” says Filipe Serrano, Díaz Ricaurte’s fellow biologist, who witnessed the meet-cute. The frog seemed to have mistaken Díaz Ricaurte’s footwear “for a potential mate,” and kept returning to clasp it anew. The little Lothario, Serrano said, “would not let it go.”

Neither, in a sense, could Serrano or Díaz Ricaurte. The toad-boot tryst eventually ended, but in the months that followed, the two University of São Paulo researchers could not get the incident out of their heads. It wasn’t the toad, exactly, or the boot, or even the doomed union between the two—frog mating, known as amplexus, usually involves a male latching on to a female, and it’s not uncommon for overeager suitors to initiate an erroneous embrace. What stayed with the pair, they told me, was the possibility that these ill-fated events, which they’d both heard about before, might be growing in frequency, as frogs attempt to navigate a more and more fractured world. Scientists call this an evolutionary trap. “The environment changes, and they make more mistakes,” says Ulrika Candolin, a biologist at the University of Helsinki. Temperatures are rising; habitats are fraying; animals are being forced to mingle with new and unfamiliar species. Sex, for some species, seems bound to take a hit.

Serrano and Díaz Ricaurte, along with their colleague Marcio Martins, began to search for past accounts of frog hugs gone awry—formally termed misdirected amplexus. They found nearly 400, a whole coterie of frogs glomming on to things that they almost certainly could never fertilize: dead frogs, incompatible species of frogs, and frog embryos still inside of eggs; coconuts, mangos, and apples; geckos, turtles, fish, and slugs; balls, rulers, and plastic cups; and even some cow and yak dung. The compendium makes clear that randy frogs can sometimes find themselves seriously duped.

What’s not obvious, though, is why. Misdirected amplexus isn’t always cause for alarm. A bit of brazenness can actually behoove a bachelor frog, especially in species that mate only a few nights a year, or in populations where females are especially scarce. “Males will just go for anything they can get their hands on,” says Liz Lopez, a wildlife biologist based in California, who has studied misdirected amplexus. The super-tight hugs are an ideal way to position males in the right place at the right time, when their mates drop their eggs; they can also ward off other suitors trying to edge their way in. Serrano calls it a “clasp first, ask questions later” strategy—far better to get too grabby and chance a blunder than give in to shyness and end up totally unsexed. There are even rare instances of sexual snafus turning out pretty okay: necrophilia that has actually resulted in the extrusion and fertilization of viable eggs; interspecies unions that, under some circumstances, birth better-adapted offspring than sticking with one’s own kind.

“Males will just go for anything they can get their hands on,” says Liz Lopez, a wildlife biologist based in California, who has studied misdirected amplexus.

I guess she's talking about frogs.

Too many mistakes, though, and frogs can quickly find themselves in trouble. Every error marks an opportunity missed—time that could have been spent finding a more appropriate partner, then coupling up with her. Some males will latch on to a mate for weeks, even months, forgoing meals the entire time. “That’s very costly,” and hardly worth the squeeze if no offspring emerge, says Juan Carvajal Castro, a biologist at St. John’s University who’s studied amplexus. (Males that accidentally grab other males will sometimes elicit a squawk of protest that prompts them to release; dead frogs and apples, however, can give no such warning calls.) A prolonged clasp out in the open can also leave misguided males more vulnerable to predators and disease, Díaz Ricaurte told me.

There’s danger, then, in amplexus going south too often. Which it very easily could in today’s rapidly shape-shifting world. The precious real estate on which frogs live and mate is growing scarcer; Carvajal Castro notes that some species that live in drier habitats, for instance, can mate only after periods of rainfall fill up local ponds—events that are becoming more scattershot as climate change accelerates. Frogs are also struggling to hear and respond to potential mates’ croaks and calls in the growing urban din. Starved of proper partners, frogs might start looking elsewhere. And as humans continue to encroach on wild spaces, frogs are undoubtedly coming into more frequent contact with new species, or even unfamiliar objects, that could distract them from better prospects. Candolin, of the University of Helsinki, has been watching that exact disaster play out with male European glowworms, which are sometimes lured away from luminous females by similarly glowy garden lights. “They fly around the lights, instead of mating and reproducing, and they die there,” she told me.

If something similar is now happening to frogs, Serrano and Díaz Ricaurte’s database of confused clingers won’t quite be able to prove it. To truly build the case for climate change or habitat disruption messing with amplexus, researchers would have to slowly and systematically track frog mating over time while monitoring local environmental conditions; they’d need to compare amphibian populations between locations, and try to figure out which ones saw the most sexual success. Most of the incidents in the database, in contrast, were recorded by happenstance, by a select group of people who chanced upon a frog in failed flagrante. “There’s a lot of potential for bias with that,” says Karin Pfennig, a frog biologist at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

If misdirected amplexus among frogs really is increasing at the hands of humans, it won’t be the first time people have futzed with other species’ mating habits. Birds befuddled by traffic noises have struggled to hear the songs of their mates. Fish flummoxed by chemical pollutants, which can interfere with social signals, have picked suboptimal partners. Beetles lured in by the brownish gleam of textured glass have tried to bed beer bottles in the Australian west. Peeping on these acts of misplaced affection might seem weird, even voyeuristic. But sex is serious business, and perhaps people owe it to their neighbors to, once in a while, take a good, long look.