Marrying a transgender person might not be appropriate.
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Gay Bashing
- Thread starter thomas t
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Marrying a transgender person might not be appropriate.
I know. But christians believe two men who kiss and men and women who kiss do not have the same intentions because what is between their legs.
Why so?
Do you think kissing people on the lips is appropriate? Its not sanitary.
Unveiled Artist
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Marrying a transgender person might not be appropriate.
Is it a sin?
You mentioned gender is more than one's sex. To me sexuality encompasses both sex and gender (we're not divided as human beings). Although it may not be appropriate, is it a sin though based on what you said about gender opposed to one's sex?
Unveiled Artist
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Do you think kissing people on the lips is appropriate? Its not sanitary.
That's besides the point.
Do you know why one is wrong and the other is not? (French kissing)
Is it a sin?
You mentioned gender is more than one's sex. To me sexuality encompasses both sex and gender (we're not divided as human beings). Although it may not be appropriate, is it a sin though based on what you said about gender opposed to one's sex?
Why do you think people consider it inappropriate for people of the opposite gender to fall asleep in the same room or bed, or to text each other for hours?
That's besides the point.
Do you know why one is wrong and the other is not? (French kissing)
Are you saying lip kissing is inappropriate but not necessarily lust?
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
Why is it a sin to say something that isnt your place if it isnt gossip? Gossip is telling someone privileged information about someone else. If person A and person B have somewhat of a connection, and person C tells person A information about person B, and person C is an accquantince of person A and person B, but doesn't have anything in common with them, why is that different from if person C had more of a connection between person A and person B.
You lost me with the ABCs. Can you rephrase or put names to them?
Unveiled Artist
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Why do you think people consider it inappropriate for people of the opposite gender to fall asleep in the same room or bed, or to text each other for hours?
You're switching the topic. If gender is more than sex then it shouldn't matter how one is born biologically, right?
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
Are you saying lip kissing is inappropriate but not necessarily lust?
French kissing and holding hands in an intimate relationship rather than affection is seen "cute" and moral if between male and female but it is looked down upon if it's two men. Women can kind of get away with it until both couples french kiss.
Ideally, it shouldn't matter but to many christians it does.
You lost me with the ABCs. Can you rephrase or put names to them?
One time an older person at church was mingling with younger people and asking them about a church leader who temporarily left for another state. They thought they were one of the young people. Someone said what they were doing wasnt their place. The office of the person telling the same person the same information about the same other person can make it inappropriate even though it might not be gossip. But maybe I'm wrong and its the same exact thing.
French kissing and holding hands in an intimate relationship rather than affection is seen "cute" and moral if between male and female but it is looked down upon if it's two men. Women can kind of get away with it until both couples french kiss.
Ideally, it shouldn't matter but to many christians it does.
What do you mean until both couples french kiss?
You're switching the topic. If gender is more than sex then it shouldn't matter how one is born biologically, right?
Not everything has a black and white definition. Genitals make someone a man or a woman, but there is more to appearance revealing someone is a man or a woman than appearance revealing their genitals. Appearance reveals that in the context of someone looking for a marriage partner who they will have kids with.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
What do you mean until both couples french kiss?
For example if two men John and Joe were french kissing and showing how they love each other with smiles, flirts, and intimate conversations you wouldn't have with your best guy friend christians would look down on, try to justify it to build acceptance, or say they are lusting (or about to lust) and are sinning since sin can be in the mind not just in behavior.
If male and female Jane and Bob did the exact same thing with the same motives without lust and thoughts of lust, christians would not see anything wrong with that. They are building a relationship and assuming they are christians (just as the men above), they will build a relationship accepted by god.
Both couples man/man and man/woman have the exact same intentions but to a christian they do not. It's not because of who they are as people but specifically what's between their legs overrides everything else.
I don't know why.
If that were true, transsexualism and intersex conditions wouldn't be a thing. Ideally, everyone's body would match up with their psychological reality but that ain't so for everyone.Genitals make someone a man or a woman,
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
Not everything has a black and white definition. Genitals make someone a man or a woman, but there is more to appearance revealing someone is a man or a woman than appearance revealing their genitals. Appearance reveals that in the context of someone looking for a marriage partner who they will have kids with.
But that still leaves the question (two of them now) how is gender more than just sex in a christian point of view?
And if it is, which is seen as the greater priority, one's sex or one's gender?
But I still want to know how one's sex determines who is sinning and who isn't.
To many christians it isn't just marriage that's the indicator of sin, it's the actual sexual behavior. Why is one seen as moral and the other not?
But that still leaves the question (two of them now) how is gender more than just sex in a christian point of view?
And if it is, which is seen as the greater priority, one's sex or one's gender?
But I still want to know how one's sex determines who is sinning and who isn't.
To many christians it isn't just marriage that's the indicator of sin, it's the actual sexual behavior. Why is one seen as moral and the other not?
The lack of marriage being possible is why sexual behavior between two men or two women is a sin.
Intersex people are look either male or female. Body matching up with psychological reality means that there is a certain congruity between face and genitals and without that, gender would be a vulgar concept because gender would just mean genitals.If that were true, transsexualism and intersex conditions wouldn't be a thing. Ideally, everyone's body would match up with their psychological reality but that ain't so for everyone.
For example if two men John and Joe were french kissing and showing how they love each other with smiles, flirts, and intimate conversations you wouldn't have with your best guy friend christians would look down on, try to justify it to build acceptance, or say they are lusting (or about to lust) and are sinning since sin can be in the mind not just in behavior.
If male and female Jane and Bob did the exact same thing with the same motives without lust and thoughts of lust, christians would not see anything wrong with that. They are building a relationship and assuming they are christians (just as the men above), they will build a relationship accepted by god.
Both couples man/man and man/woman have the exact same intentions but to a christian they do not. It's not because of who they are as people but specifically what's between their legs overrides everything else.
I don't know why.
In the man woman situation, it doesn't necessarily insinuate an off limits relationship outside of marriage.
I'm not sure what you mean here. By body matching up with the psychological reality, I meant that, for example, a transssxual man would have a male body. That would be ideal but that's not how it is, so genitals alone don't tell you whether someone is a man or woman.Intersex people are look either male or female. Body matching up with psychological reality means that there is a certain congruity between face and genitals and without that, gender would be a vulgar concept because gender would just mean genitals.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
The lack of marriage being possible is why sexual behavior between two men or two women is a sin.
Many christians it isn't just marriage, it's the act itself. When they quote the bible, they're not quoting marital sins in relation to sexual behavior but behaviors related to rape, abuse, murder, etc.
The comparison isn't because one isn't married it's the action is seen as deprived and lust that cannot lead to marriage.
If it were just because they can't get married, people would feel a bit better. But no. It's the action not the marriage.