good observations. BTW nice thread, you are discussing perceptions rather than dogma doctrine nonsense. Maybe dogma doctrine is the gate keeper. "And the two head beast dogamous and doctrinis stood watch at the gate" as clueless tourists wandered by. The beast would bark and upon hearing the barking, the clueless tourists would fall into a trance and begin repeating the bark of the beast, they would turn, head back home, turn on the nature channel on their TV s satisfied they were in nature! Pan would come and pet the beast on the head, smiling, "good job, good job, dogamous and doctrinis you have sent them back home to their TV in their heads" "....... Ha my second God in two days. Yesterday it was superficialous the roman God of the idiots, today it's the beast. Lol.