Altfish
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UK; I think 'banning' sends things underground, so it exists but under the radar.Wow!
Not in any country around Western Europe........ in fact anywhere in Europe!
Which country do you live in?
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UK; I think 'banning' sends things underground, so it exists but under the radar.Wow!
Not in any country around Western Europe........ in fact anywhere in Europe!
Which country do you live in?
A muslim can take two paths in this issue.Excuse me for saying so, but you seem to step around the issue.
Should demonstrations such as Koran burning in a land where 8 million Muslims live be outlawed?
Koran burning protests are very rare - you do realise that 2 (IIRC) of the 'Mohammed' drawings were created by Muslims to up the temperature.Well that's the problem, because the vast majority of demonstrations (like Koran burning), publications (like printing nasty pictures which upset) and other media subject matter about Islam is all driven by people who hate.
And all it takes is for a single unbalanced nutter out of millions of peaceful Muslim to commit a terror act in response and the whole Muslim community gets picked on. I've previously even read posts on RF suggesting 'They do this, or they do that.' as a whole.
And Antisemitism is exactly that as well......... dangerous and outlawed shouldn't be picking on groups just because we don't belong to them.... is my suggestion.
]That is not about religion or theology.
That is about people. Religious people....believers who are always a priori persons to defend.
Hey!Many European countries, Sweden, Denmark, Holland to a lesser extent Germany - UK was getting there but 10-years of Tory / Brexit Government hasn't helped.
I thought you did.... live in UK, from the Brexit debates.UK; I think 'banning' sends things underground, so it exists but under the radar.
That's fine but where eight million Muslims live in a country it's necessary to think of all of them.A muslim can take two paths in this issue.
Getting angry because a non muslim burning the holy book, and the Muslim say bad things or even kill for the burning, that is a very incorrect way to do it.
Second path is to understand it is the non muslim who is doing an harmful action and words when burning the quran, knowing it is them who do the wrong action, one also know that the teaching is not lost if and when the Muslim know the teaching by heart. The teaching is then within the muslim, and the book it self is no longer needed.
The correct way is to contact the Police to tell that problem has arised in the area, and it can become voilence from those who are not pure in heart.
The book is a book, the wrong action of burning it is on those who doing the action. Not on the Muslim who happen to see it.
As long you know and practice the teaching you will remain calm.
The way to behave as a righteous muslim ( peacefully) has no border or country, it counts no matter where a muslim goes.That's fine but where eight million Muslims live in a country it's necessary to think of all of them.
I'm any case, France and Belgium have finally acted to try and preserve peace.
I've never seen any of the drawings.Koran burning protests are very rare - you do realise that 2 (IIRC) of the 'Mohammed' drawings were created by Muslims to up the temperature.
Hang on..... I was talking about a person deliberately breaking something in public, the above list describes matches, meetings etc.What about other demonstrations? Greenpeace, Black Lives Matter, Anti-Abortion, Anti- new road, etc. - where is the line drawn. You can guarantee at least one nutter in all demonstrations,
Are you suggesting that it's ok to upset them with hate actions, hate publications and hate pictures?The way to behave as a righteous muslim ( peacefully) has no border or country, it counts no matter where a muslim goes.
Not telling anyone how to react it is only a thought of what good behaviour would look like.Are you suggesting that it's ok to upset them with hate actions, hate publications and hate pictures?
.....and then telling them how to respond your way? The Muslims of France might be offended ??
I do.So, if you say, "I believe in a flying horse"
I am supposed to say, "Yes that's fine"
I cannot do that and keep a straight face. I favour fact and truth.
If, like Christians and other theists one believes that God is real, then that is their truth and insulting their God, faith or religion with actions, pictures or publications is aggressive and hateful.If, like me, you believe god is fake; then saying so is talking truth, not blasphemy.
Do you think that the Race hate laws banning such demonstrations, publications and media are there just to reduce offending people?
Should the laws banning Antisemitism be repealed?
Hello again....Think about it this way: What if some Black civil rights marchers during the 50s were told that they couldn't march because it would anger and upset White people? The White people might even do violence to them, so it's better that the civil rights marchers be prevented from marching. That's a "heckler's veto." That's what you're advocating here.
I don't know of any laws which ban Antisemitism, at least not in the U.S.
No..... I can't think of it that way.Think about it this way: What if some Black civil rights marchers during the 50s were told that they couldn't march because it would anger and upset White people? The White people might even do violence to them, so it's better that the civil rights marchers be prevented from marching. That's a "heckler's veto." That's what you're advocating here.
This from the US Dept of State...........I don't know of any laws which ban Antisemitism, at least not in the U.S.