Forbidden Republican Party of USA?

[Audie]

I didn't want to clutter my post with a litany of all
the other liberal shibboleths & perfunctory jeers.

Hence the need for a acronym.

 

[Revoltingest]

Hence the need for a acronym.

But we should avoid anything arcane.
It took a long time for my "MIC" to become recognized by others.

 

[Audie]

Immigration reform, yes. Border control not so much.
And I don't assume that people coming over the southern border would be any less worthy citizens than those who have been waiting elsewhere. Especially since they make the backbone of our labor industries and provide a huge chunk of tax revenue. Plus they're largely industrious, hard working people with strong familiar ties.

So, open border?

Fairness to those who try to come in legally?


I will take your silence as concession that the so called xenophobia is not a policy.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Good for you.
But it doesn't justify the rampant automatic
calling of all one's foes "racist".

I don't. Just the racist ones. To the extent that the organization and perpetuation of most domestic terrorism in this country is due to a very real rise in white supremacy constantly apologized for or outright denied by prominent figures on the right.
You can't go to a Trump rally without being elbow to elbow with people with 'Camp Auschwitz' t-shirts and confederate flags. And the people in denial about that fact are part of the problem.

 

[Revoltingest]

I don't. Just the racist ones. To the extent that the organization and perpetuation of most domestic terrorism in this country is due to a very real rise in white supremacy constantly apologized for or outright denied by prominent figures on the right.
You can't go to a Trump rally without being elbow to elbow with people with 'Camp Auschwitz' t-shirts and confederate flags. And the people in denial about that fact are part of the problem.

How many Trump rallies have you actually attended?
Should I characterize all BLM & Antifa types as looters,
racists, arsonists, & attackers because many are?

 

[ADigitalArtist]

So, open border?
To be fair should use cruise ships as the Africans and Asians do t have land access.

Fairness to those who try to come in legally?


I will take your silence as concession that the so called xenophobia is not a policy.

A reductive argument isn't a good argument. That I'm in favor of less border control does not automatically mean I'm for open borders.

And I'd be happy to give the same treatment to Asians and Africans coming here as I would people crossing the Southern border. A good third of estimated illegal entry is overstayed visas after flights, and I imagine many Asians and Africans take that route to get here.

I'm not being silent. You're just not listening.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

How many Trump rallies have you actually attended?
Should I characterize all BLM & Antifa types as looters,
racists, arsonists, & attackers because many are?

There's this great modern invention called a camera.

And sure, if you're that vulnerable to right wing propaganda. The whataboutism to detract from actual racist motivated domestic terrorism is telling.

 

[Audie]

A reductive argument isn't a good argument. That I'm in favor of less border control does not automatically mean I'm for open borders.

And I'd be happy to give the same treatment to Asians and Africans coming here as I would people crossing the Southern border. A good third of estimated illegal entry is overstayed visas after flights, and I imagine many Asians and Africans take that route to get here.

I'm not being silent. You're just not listening.

I didn't hear any bad Trump policies
But
Ok i will try to listen to silence.

( i don't agree with all of his policies, still less his approach)

 

[Audie]

There's this great modern invention called a camera.

And sure, if you're that vulnerable to right wing propaganda. The whataboutism to detract from actual racist motivated domestic terrorism is telling.

We saw a lot of racist terrorism all summer.

 

[Revoltingest]

There's this great modern invention called a camera.

And sure, if you're that vulnerable to right wing propaganda. The whataboutism to detract from actual racist motivated domestic terrorism is telling.

The knee jerk accusations of racism are telling too.
Here's the thing about photographs....
When viewing them, one should avoid seeing something,
& making that thing the defining trait for all in a group,
including those not even in the photo.

By your standard, BLM & Antifa are all violent thieving
racists. Thus I reject your standard of prejudice in
preference to seeing diversity, & the seeking of
understanding.

 

[Revoltingest]

We saw a lot of racist terrorism all summer.

But they were all MAGAs disguised as BLM & Antifa....so I'm told.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

We saw a lot of racist terrorism all summer.

We sure did. Boogaloo boys, Qanon, Proud Boys and other right wing nationalist groups were quite active this summer.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

The knee jerk accusations of racism are telling too.
Here's the thing about photographs....
When viewing them, one should avoid seeing something,
& making that thing the defining trait for all in a group,
including those not even in the photo.

By your standard, BLM & Antifa are all violent thieving
racists. Thus I reject your standard of prejudice in
preference to seeing diversity, & the seeking of
understanding.

If you think BLM and antifa is just as bad then there's nothing to be done to help you. There's no excuse for willful ignorance.

 

[Audie]

The knee jerk accusations of racism are telling too.
Here's the thing about photographs....
When viewing them, one should avoid seeing something,
& making that thing the defining trait for all in a group,
including those not even in the photo.

By your standard, BLM & Antifa are all violent thieving
racists. Thus I reject your standard of prejudice in
preference to seeing diversity, & the seeking of
understanding.

Camera plus left wing bigotry gave you the
maga kids thing.

 

[Revoltingest]

If you think BLM and antifa is just as bad then there's nothing to be done to help you.
There's no excuse for willful ignorance.

You've not yet addressed my point about your double standard.
Instead, your post is has only dogged defense of your own, &
prejudiced demonization of the other.
Then, in a final huff of desperation, you wield the ad hominem.
I'm only trying to help you overcome intolerance.
And I'm not giving up.

 

[Revoltingest]

Camera plus left wing bigotry gave you the
maga kids thing.

I don't know what that means.
But because AIAR, I admit to it.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

You've not yet addressed my point about your double standard.
Instead, your post is has only dogged defense of your own, &
prejudiced demonization of the other.
Then, in a final huff of desperation, you try to make it about me.
I'm only trying to help you overcome intolerance.

Whataboutism isn't a point, it's a distraction from points. A red herring. You're doing nothing but trying to disguise the seriousness of white supremacist domestic terrorism. Perhaps out of some deep-seated guilt over being complicit to its rise? Or some misguided 'rule of middles.'

I know you think buildings are more important than people, but I can assure you that is not the case.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Camera plus left wing bigotry gave you the
maga kids thing.

Did camera plus left wing bigotry also give us the first time a confederate flag was waved inside the capitol building by someone with a 'camp auschwitz' t-shirt and a failed coup attempt, a guy with zip ties hunting down democratic congressmen? A gallows and noose constructed outside the capitol building?

 

[Revoltingest]

I know you think buildings are more important than people, but I can assure you that is not the case.

You know what you know about me
based upon what you say about me.
But that's not reality based.
Try asking questions.
Have a conversation.
You might be surprised.
I'm not evil.....mostly.

 

[Revoltingest]

Did camera plus left wing bigotry also give us the first time a confederate flag was waved inside the capitol building by someone with a 'camp auschwitz' t-shirt and a failed coup attempt, a guy with zip ties hunting down democratic congressmen? A gallows and noose constructed outside the capitol building?

Double standarding again, eh.
You'd never judge BLM or Antifa by the bad elements.
But the MAGAs....to only see that which can demonize
is illusory.