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For Your Information if You are Interested. About Sarcasm...

Discussion in 'Member Announcements' started by Sunstone, Jan 22, 2021.

  1. Sunstone

    Sunstone De Diablo Del Fora
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    As I hope some of you have noticed, lately I've ramped up the proportion of my posts that are sarcastic. This has brought to my notice how often, and apparently how easily, we fail to pick up these days on the fact that a post by any one of us is intended to be understood as sarcasm.

    I have my own thoughts about why that seems to me to happen so much more often today than it did years ago. I'm thinking maybe our age is one in which so much absurdity is thrown at us as Gospel truth, we are all of us to one extent or another begun to take everything, from any source, as an attempt to make us swallow nonsense.

    So that raises to my mind the question of what, if anything, I should do to increase the odds that my sarcastic posts are understood to be sarcasm, rather than just one more tedious attempt by this or that person to fob off crap as truth.

    I'm not sure how I will answer that question going forward after having substantially more time to learn and think about it, but if anyone is interested in what to expect from me for the foreseeable future, then here it is: I am for now going to continue on as I have been doing, which is to try to signal when a post of mine is meant to be taken as sarcasm, mostly by putting forward as 'the truth' the most outlandish, improbable, and genuinely absurd ideas I can think of in hope that their ridiculousness will be a flag that is easily recognizable as sarcasm.

    Having said that, please let me make this clear. I feel no actual obligation or duty to anyone but myself for what I do here. The only exceptions to that might be extraordinary ones, along the lines of yelling 'fire' in a crowded theater with a very high bar set for what that might mean in practice.

    Now, anyone who finds my position on this intolerable has a ready recourse open to them. Stop reading my posts. Beyond that, if someone is in denial of my right to set my own standards here, then so far as I am concerned, they have removed themselves altogether from the conversation because they aren't even reading the same book as me, let alone us both being on the same page. i.e. I'm most likely to simply ignore them, just as I would encourage them to ignore me.

    I wish I felt I had no need to spell things out. I've never felt such a need in the past. But I guess we're living in a different age for now.

    Last, there's nothing in all that I have said I believe is worth my time debating. Were I to politely tell you otherwise, I would be lying to myself to say it.

    Thanks for your attention.


     
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  2. Cooky

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    To not be able to tell when someone we all know is being sarcastic, is pretty embarrassing, IMO. Anyone who can't tell should be openly laughed at.
     
  3. Cooky

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    But you can't pretend to be a religion you're not. That's trolling, and way, way too much fun.
     
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  4. Secret Chief

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    You don't say.
     
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  5. Sunstone

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    I've try to be subtle about it out of respect for @Jayhawker Soule. He says I now and then alarm his neighbor's domestic animals these days, and wishes I would tamp it down a bit if only enough so their dogs can now and then sleep at nights.
     
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  6. SomeRandom

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    Ehh, sarcasm is harder to pick up on something written by default. One is essentially relying upon people to pick up on the hyperbole in the statement, rather than relying on body language and speech patterns. When someone has a dry sense of humour, this can be difficult for some to pick up on. Sometimes even in spoken format. I speak from experience lol
    This is why emojis were invented.:D
     
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  7. stvdv

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    Wow, another wonderful YouTube. They are fantastic

    Okay, back to the subject sarcasm:
    I never use sarcasm, as I feel no need or urge for it's use, and I take other's message serious, even if they use sarcasm:D

    Yesterday I watched a movie, in which was explained "Sarcasm is violence masked as a joke"

    Using sarcasm reveals a lot about the person using sarcasm

    Note: When young, I used sarcasm a lot, my weapon so to speak, I did not know how to handle certain situations without sarcasm
    Note: But no problem if you use sarcasm, but now you know that I don't see it as sarcasm:D
     
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  8. Vinayaka

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    I don't understand.
     
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  9. Sunstone

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    Don't spread this around, bro, but neither do I. This is yet another case of me trying to punch well above my class in insight and understanding.
     
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  10. sun rise

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    <sarcasm>
    "Is it time for your medication or mine?"

    This will only be understood by the few that understand HTML in the original geek speak language, of course.
    </sarcasm>
     
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  11. Secret Chief

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    Sarcasm is the default northern British dialect. :fearscream:
     
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  12. crossfire

    crossfire Antinomian feminist heretic freak ☿
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    Oh Darn! Now you've shattered my illusions about you resembling this guy:
    archie-bunker-all-in-the-fmaily.jpg
     
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    I propose a competition to find and select an appropriate sarcasm emoji.
     
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    [sarcasm]Surely it is reasonable to assume that nuanced aspects of communication that rely on tone of voice translate correctly on the internet without the appropriate use of emotes or other tags, right?[/sarcasm]

    Or just don't use sarcasm. That's my general rule. It really does translate poorly in text and isn't worth the trouble of misinterpretations. Plus, all to often I notice if I'm tempted to be sarcastic, I'm being mean spirited and that really isn't the sort of vibe I should be cultivating, especially here.
     
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    It's usually the upside-down smiley, which we don't have here....
     
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    and there is always the frog :frogface: or the croc :crocodile:. A jester would also work
     
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    I know the weather is rainy and cold in England, but it must be icy cold in the northern part with sarcasm added to it. Brrrr.:snowflake::snowflake::snowflake:
     
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  18. Secret Chief

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    I wondered what that was. maxresdefault.jpg
     
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    A frog or a croc :shrug:
     
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    I was going to say :sarcasm:
     
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