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For Your Information if You are Interested. About Sarcasm...

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
As I hope some of you have noticed, lately I've ramped up the proportion of my posts that are sarcastic. This has brought to my notice how often, and apparently how easily, we fail to pick up these days on the fact that a post by any one of us is intended to be understood as sarcasm.

I have my own thoughts about why that seems to me to happen so much more often today than it did years ago. I'm thinking maybe our age is one in which so much absurdity is thrown at us as Gospel truth, we are all of us to one extent or another begun to take everything, from any source, as an attempt to make us swallow nonsense.

So that raises to my mind the question of what, if anything, I should do to increase the odds that my sarcastic posts are understood to be sarcasm, rather than just one more tedious attempt by this or that person to fob off crap as truth.

I'm not sure how I will answer that question going forward after having substantially more time to learn and think about it, but if anyone is interested in what to expect from me for the foreseeable future, then here it is: I am for now going to continue on as I have been doing, which is to try to signal when a post of mine is meant to be taken as sarcasm, mostly by putting forward as 'the truth' the most outlandish, improbable, and genuinely absurd ideas I can think of in hope that their ridiculousness will be a flag that is easily recognizable as sarcasm.

Having said that, please let me make this clear. I feel no actual obligation or duty to anyone but myself for what I do here. The only exceptions to that might be extraordinary ones, along the lines of yelling 'fire' in a crowded theater with a very high bar set for what that might mean in practice.

Now, anyone who finds my position on this intolerable has a ready recourse open to them. Stop reading my posts. Beyond that, if someone is in denial of my right to set my own standards here, then so far as I am concerned, they have removed themselves altogether from the conversation because they aren't even reading the same book as me, let alone us both being on the same page. i.e. I'm most likely to simply ignore them, just as I would encourage them to ignore me.

I wish I felt I had no need to spell things out. I've never felt such a need in the past. But I guess we're living in a different age for now.

Last, there's nothing in all that I have said I believe is worth my time debating. Were I to politely tell you otherwise, I would be lying to myself to say it.

Thanks for your attention.


 

Cooky

Veteran Member
As I hope some of you have noticed, lately I've ramped up the proportion of my posts that are sarcastic. This has brought to my notice how often, and apparently how easily, we fail to pick up these days on the fact that a post by any one of us is intended to be understood as sarcasm.

I have my own thoughts about why that seems to me to happen so much more often today than it did years ago. I'm thinking maybe our age is one in which so much absurdity is thrown at us as Gospel truth, we are all of us to one extent or another begun to take everything, from any source, as an attempt to make us swallow nonsense.

So that raises to my mind the question of what, if anything, I should do to increase the odds that my sarcastic posts are understood to be sarcasm, rather than just one more tedious attempt by this or that person to fob off crap as truth.

I'm not sure how I will answer that question going forward after having substantially more time to learn and think about it, but if anyone is interested in what to expect from me for the foreseeable future, then here it is: I am for now going to continue on as I have been doing, which is to try to signal when a post of mine is meant to be taken as sarcasm, mostly by putting forward as 'the truth' the most outlandish, improbable, and genuinely absurd ideas I can think of in hope that their ridiculousness will be a flag that is easily recognizable as sarcasm.

Having said that, please let me make this clear. I feel no actual obligation or duty to anyone but myself for what I do here. The only exceptions to that might be extraordinary ones, along the lines of yelling 'fire' in a crowded theater with a very high bar set for what that might mean in practice.

Now, anyone who finds my position on this intolerable has a ready recourse open to them. Stop reading my posts. Beyond that, if someone is in denial of my right to set my own standards here, then so far as I am concerned, they have removed themselves altogether from the conversation because they aren't even reading the same book as me, let alone us both being on the same page. i.e. I'm most likely to simply ignore them, just as I would encourage them to ignore me.

I wish I felt I had no need to spell things out. I've never felt such a need in the past. But I guess we're living in a different age for now.

Last, there's nothing in all that I have said I believe is worth my time debating. Were I to politely tell you otherwise, I would be lying to myself to say it.

Thanks for your attention.



To not be able to tell when someone we all know is being sarcastic, is pretty embarrassing, IMO. Anyone who can't tell should be openly laughed at.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
As I hope some of you have noticed, lately I've ramped up the proportion of my posts that are sarcastic. This has brought to my notice how often, and apparently how easily, we fail to pick up these days on the fact that a post by any one of us is intended to be understood as sarcasm.

I have my own thoughts about why that seems to me to happen so much more often today than it did years ago. I'm thinking maybe our age is one in which so much absurdity is thrown at us as Gospel truth, we are all of us to one extent or another begun to take everything, from any source, as an attempt to make us swallow nonsense.

So that raises to my mind the question of what, if anything, I should do to increase the odds that my sarcastic posts are understood to be sarcasm, rather than just one more tedious attempt by this or that person to fob off crap as truth.

I'm not sure how I will answer that question going forward after having substantially more time to learn and think about it, but if anyone is interested in what to expect from me for the foreseeable future, then here it is: I am for now going to continue on as I have been doing, which is to try to signal when a post of mine is meant to be taken as sarcasm, mostly by putting forward as 'the truth' the most outlandish, improbable, and genuinely absurd ideas I can think of in hope that their ridiculousness will be a flag that is easily recognizable as sarcasm.

Having said that, please let me make this clear. I feel no actual obligation or duty to anyone but myself for what I do here. The only exceptions to that might be extraordinary ones, along the lines of yelling 'fire' in a crowded theater with a very high bar set for what that might mean in practice.

Now, anyone who finds my position on this intolerable has a ready recourse open to them. Stop reading my posts. Beyond that, if someone is in denial of my right to set my own standards here, then so far as I am concerned, they have removed themselves altogether from the conversation because they aren't even reading the same book as me, let alone us both being on the same page. i.e. I'm most likely to simply ignore them, just as I would encourage them to ignore me.

I wish I felt I had no need to spell things out. I've never felt such a need in the past. But I guess we're living in a different age for now.

Last, there's nothing in all that I have said I believe is worth my time debating. Were I to politely tell you otherwise, I would be lying to myself to say it.

Thanks for your attention.



But you can't pretend to be a religion you're not. That's trolling, and way, way too much fun.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
As I hope some of you have noticed, lately I've ramped up the proportion of my posts that are sarcastic. This has brought to my notice how often, and apparently how easily, we fail to pick up these days on the fact that a post by any one of us is intended to be understood as sarcasm.

I have my own thoughts about why that seems to me to happen so much more often today than it did years ago. I'm thinking maybe our age is one in which so much absurdity is thrown at us as Gospel truth, we are all of us to one extent or another begun to take everything, from any source, as an attempt to make us swallow nonsense.

So that raises to my mind the question of what, if anything, I should do to increase the odds that my sarcastic posts are understood to be sarcasm, rather than just one more tedious attempt by this or that person to fob off crap as truth.

I'm not sure how I will answer that question going forward after having substantially more time to learn and think about it, but if anyone is interested in what to expect from me for the foreseeable future, then here it is: I am for now going to continue on as I have been doing, which is to try to signal when a post of mine is meant to be taken as sarcasm, mostly by putting forward as 'the truth' the most outlandish, improbable, and genuinely absurd ideas I can think of in hope that their ridiculousness will be a flag that is easily recognizable as sarcasm.

Having said that, please let me make this clear. I feel no actual obligation or duty to anyone but myself for what I do here. The only exceptions to that might be extraordinary ones, along the lines of yelling 'fire' in a crowded theater with a very high bar set for what that might mean in practice.

Now, anyone who finds my position on this intolerable has a ready recourse open to them. Stop reading my posts. Beyond that, if someone is in denial of my right to set my own standards here, then so far as I am concerned, they have removed themselves altogether from the conversation because they aren't even reading the same book as me, let alone us both being on the same page. i.e. I'm most likely to simply ignore them, just as I would encourage them to ignore me.

I wish I felt I had no need to spell things out. I've never felt such a need in the past. But I guess we're living in a different age for now.

Last, there's nothing in all that I have said I believe is worth my time debating. Were I to politely tell you otherwise, I would be lying to myself to say it.

Thanks for your attention.


Ehh, sarcasm is harder to pick up on something written by default. One is essentially relying upon people to pick up on the hyperbole in the statement, rather than relying on body language and speech patterns. When someone has a dry sense of humour, this can be difficult for some to pick up on. Sometimes even in spoken format. I speak from experience lol
This is why emojis were invented.:D
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
As I hope some of you have noticed, lately I've ramped up the proportion of my posts that are sarcastic. This has brought to my notice how often, and apparently how easily, we fail to pick up these days on the fact that a post by any one of us is intended to be understood as sarcasm.
Wow, another wonderful YouTube. They are fantastic

Okay, back to the subject sarcasm:
I never use sarcasm, as I feel no need or urge for it's use, and I take other's message serious, even if they use sarcasm:D

Yesterday I watched a movie, in which was explained "Sarcasm is violence masked as a joke"

Using sarcasm reveals a lot about the person using sarcasm

Note: When young, I used sarcasm a lot, my weapon so to speak, I did not know how to handle certain situations without sarcasm
Note: But no problem if you use sarcasm, but now you know that I don't see it as sarcasm:D
 
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Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
As I hope some of you have noticed, lately I've ramped up the proportion of my posts that are sarcastic. This has brought to my notice how often, and apparently how easily, we fail to pick up these days on the fact that a post by any one of us is intended to be understood as sarcasm.

I have my own thoughts about why that seems to me to happen so much more often today than it did years ago. I'm thinking maybe our age is one in which so much absurdity is thrown at us as Gospel truth, we are all of us to one extent or another begun to take everything, from any source, as an attempt to make us swallow nonsense.

So that raises to my mind the question of what, if anything, I should do to increase the odds that my sarcastic posts are understood to be sarcasm, rather than just one more tedious attempt by this or that person to fob off crap as truth.

I'm not sure how I will answer that question going forward after having substantially more time to learn and think about it, but if anyone is interested in what to expect from me for the foreseeable future, then here it is: I am for now going to continue on as I have been doing, which is to try to signal when a post of mine is meant to be taken as sarcasm, mostly by putting forward as 'the truth' the most outlandish, improbable, and genuinely absurd ideas I can think of in hope that their ridiculousness will be a flag that is easily recognizable as sarcasm.

Having said that, please let me make this clear. I feel no actual obligation or duty to anyone but myself for what I do here. The only exceptions to that might be extraordinary ones, along the lines of yelling 'fire' in a crowded theater with a very high bar set for what that might mean in practice.

Now, anyone who finds my position on this intolerable has a ready recourse open to them. Stop reading my posts. Beyond that, if someone is in denial of my right to set my own standards here, then so far as I am concerned, they have removed themselves altogether from the conversation because they aren't even reading the same book as me, let alone us both being on the same page. i.e. I'm most likely to simply ignore them, just as I would encourage them to ignore me.

I wish I felt I had no need to spell things out. I've never felt such a need in the past. But I guess we're living in a different age for now.

Last, there's nothing in all that I have said I believe is worth my time debating. Were I to politely tell you otherwise, I would be lying to myself to say it.

Thanks for your attention.



I don't understand.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
<sarcasm>
"Is it time for your medication or mine?"

This will only be understood by the few that understand HTML in the original geek speak language, of course.
</sarcasm>
 

Secret Chief

nirvana is samsara
Wow, another wonderful YouTube. They are fantastic

Okay, back to the subject sarcasm:
I never use sarcasm, as I feel no need or urge for it's use, and I take other's message serious, even if they use sarcasm:D

Yesterday I watched a movie, in which was explained "Sarcasm is violence masked as a joke"

Using sarcasm reveals a lot about the person using sarcasm

Note: When young, I used sarcasm a lot, my weapon so to speak, I did not know how to handle certain situations without sarcasm
Note: But no problem if you use sarcasm, but now you know that I don't see it as sarcasm:D
Sarcasm is the default northern British dialect. :fearscream:
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic ☿
Premium Member
Oh Darn! Now you've shattered my illusions about you resembling this guy:
archie-bunker-all-in-the-fmaily.jpg
 

Brickjectivity

Turned to Stone. Now I stretch daily.
Staff member
Premium Member
So that raises to my mind the question of what, if anything, I should do to increase the odds that my sarcastic posts are understood to be sarcasm, rather than just one more tedious attempt by this or that person to fob off crap as truth.
I propose a competition to find and select an appropriate sarcasm emoji.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
[sarcasm]Surely it is reasonable to assume that nuanced aspects of communication that rely on tone of voice translate correctly on the internet without the appropriate use of emotes or other tags, right?[/sarcasm]

Or just don't use sarcasm. That's my general rule. It really does translate poorly in text and isn't worth the trouble of misinterpretations. Plus, all to often I notice if I'm tempted to be sarcastic, I'm being mean spirited and that really isn't the sort of vibe I should be cultivating, especially here.
 

Brickjectivity

Turned to Stone. Now I stretch daily.
Staff member
Premium Member
[sarcasm]Surely it is reasonable to assume that nuanced aspects of communication that rely on tone of voice translate correctly on the internet without the appropriate use of emotes or other tags, right?[/sarcasm]

Or just don't use sarcasm. That's my general rule. It really does translate poorly in text and isn't worth the trouble of misinterpretations. Plus, all to often I notice if I'm tempted to be sarcastic, I'm being mean spirited and that really isn't the sort of vibe I should be cultivating, especially here.
I was going to say :sarcasm:
 
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