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do fetuses have souls and is it murder to have an abortion?
I believe it is murder. Whether and when it has a soul is up for debate but I consider it murder either way.
It's my personal opinion. It's a potential soul, so it stays.how is it murder; if it doesn't have a soul? or are you claiming it has a soul and it's murder?
Abortion laws: Jewish faith teaches life does not start at conception
What Jewish law really says about abortion - Jewish Telegraphic Agency
I hope you read your sources before posting them. What this article says is that while halachically (per Jewish law) an unborn fetus isn't considered to have a soul, abortion is still only allowed in certain rare cases.What Jewish law really says about abortion - Jewish Telegraphic Agency
There is no way of telling, we can only speculatedo fetuses have souls
Before it's reached a certain point of development then no. But after it's reached a certain point then yes.and is it murder to have an abortion?
I hope you read your sources before posting them. What this article says is that while halachically (per Jewish law) an unborn fetus isn't considered to have a soul, abortion is still only allowed in certain rare cases.
The whole article goes into depth about when such abortions can take place and they're not exactly elective. Abortion is not a right, but a needful process if the medical situation, health of the mother, requires it.i certainly did read it.
the fact remains a fetus isn't a soul under jewish law. a soul is one in which the breath of life is taken and sustained without interference.
Jewish law does not consider the fetus to be a being with a soul until it is born. It does not have personhood. Furthermore, before 40 days, some poskim, or deciders of Jewish law, have a low bar for allowing an abortion.
The whole article goes into depth about when such abortions can take place, and they're not exactly elective. Abortion is not a right, but a needful process if the medical situation, health of the mother, requires it.
I am extremely tokophobic but even then I couldn't go ahead with an abortion. I think this is more complex than folks think.still the fetus isn't a person under jewish law.
abortion would be permissible under mental anguish
I am extremely tokophobic but even then I couldn't go ahead with an abortion. I think this is more complex than folks think.
Well, I'm not a Christian so...!i'm not advocating abortions. I'm out to show christian belief doesn't align with biblical context
Well, I'm not a Christian so...!
Oh, good.i certainly did read it.
I'd be weary of defining a soul in the manner you are. The implication is that someone who uses some sort of breathing device doesn't have a soul. I'm completely serious.the fact remains a fetus isn't a soul under jewish law. a soul is one in which the breath of life is taken and sustained without interference
It's my personal opinion. It's a potential soul, so it stays.
abortions happen quite naturally and without people involved.Oh, good.
I'd be weary of defining a soul in the manner you are. The implication is that someone who uses some sort of breathing device doesn't have a soul. I'm completely serious.
In any case, while the Jewish view of abortion is different from the Christian one, it's still a very strict view and abortion rulings aren't made lightly.
That's alright. I'm pointing out that from a Jewish perspective, just because you've reached conclusion x about something, doesn't mean that therefore y is allowed. Another example is that animals aren't considered alive in Judaism, at least not in the same way that humans are. Does that mean that one can be cruel to animals? No, not at all. Judaism abhors cruelty to animals.i'm pointing out the reasoning behind is like the idea of a house. is it a house if no one is living there? because the basic idea is the residence of a god. if god is spirit and no spirit is residing, then no one is home.
That's alright. I'm pointing out that from a Jewish perspective, just because you've reached conclusion x about something, doesn't mean that therefore y is allowed. Another example is that animals aren't considered alive in Judaism, at least not in the same way that humans are. Does that mean that one can be cruel to animals? No, not at all. Judaism abhors cruelty to animals.