Great, unless you were part of the 1%.
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FBI Says Covid-19 Most Likely A Leak From Lab
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Great, unless you were part of the 1%.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
You say, but your actions and beliefs scream you don't actually care for public safety or vaccines. If you did care you'd not be dismissing sound, peer reviewed science from a world of data.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
I guess there aren't enough Darwin Awards to hand out during a pandemic.
I disagree with your opinion
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
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It's not an opinion. When you down play and dismiss things that keep people safe then all you are doing is say you favor safety while doing things detrimental to that same safety you claim to uphold.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Yes and I wasn't (and neither were you). 89 percent of the people who died were elderly and also had pre existing conditions - and it was UNDER 1 percent of the world's population by the way.
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Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I guess we'll never know, especially since there are so many mutations and so many of the fixes have been proven to be ineffective anyway.Perhaps the number of deaths are lower than what you think they should've been is precisely because of the preventative measures taken. On that note:
Once COVID Vaccines Were Introduced, More Republicans Died Than Democrats
A new Yale study co-authored by SOM’s Paul Goldsmith-Pinkham found that once vaccines were introduced, the rate of excess deaths among Republicans and Democrats began to diverge.insights.som.yale.edu
Also: Herman Cain Award - Wikipedia
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
It's called "FIND A BALANCE." I don't think we ever have.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
First of all - the population of the US is over 356 million. The world population is over 7.888 BILLION (not million - billion). Around 579,920,390 people die EVERY SINGLE YEAR. That's nearly 580 MILLION deaths per year. Heart disease and cancer, in the US alone, account for many more deaths than COVID played any part in. In fact, worldwide, heart disease is the number one cause of death.Over ONE MILLION people died from in, just in the US alone. Almost SEVEN MILLION people died across the globe from it.
It's bizarre to me that people think this is nothing to sneeze at. Just another day!
It's not "just another day," but I'm putting things in some perspective.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
"All the dead" Sorry but see above post.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Hey, I've had the shots, COVID, you name it. I wore masks for so long that I still have breakouts in my chin area (new issue, for the record). I stayed home for months. I believe in the efficacy of vaccines and get a "flu shot" every single year. If I have to add another one to the mix, I will but can I please please please not have a headache for FOUR DAYS afterward? It impacts my life negatively so let's work on that. Oh and after the shots, I got COVID anyway so I guess I'm protected that way too - or maybe not, who knows.
My point is that there's a whole lot we don't know about this illness, so let's keep working on finding the answers. It's not a political thing, or shouldn't be.
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SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
COVID was the third leading cause of death in the US in both 2020 and 2021. Just after heart disease and cancer. One million people died in a fairly short time period.
But yeah, let's keep pretending like it was "just another day." I'll never understand such a nonchalant attitude toward human life in favour of economies and money.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
So who cares, right. Just a bunch of old people died.
VoidCat
Pronouns: he/him/they/them
And disabled folk because **** the disabled! Not like they dont make up a 4th of the US population or anything. Granted I don't know how many disabled folk have disorders that would make covid worse but that's how many disabled folk are in the US a fourth.So who cares, right. Just a bunch of old people died.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
What balance? The destruction would have been far worse had less been done. And what balance is there with something known for having the potential to be highly damaging to the body even when it's not fatal?
How do you balance millions of death, especially when one country (United States) has a very highly disproportionate rate of the global cases amd deaths?
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
No, not "just" after heart disease which killed 695,547 in 2022 or cancer, which killed 605,213 people in 2022, in the US. COVID was about 200,000 (or more) fewer people. 416,893 just to clarify, according to the CDC.
You don't have to "understand" any other perspectives. That's all I'm saying - PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE. A less than 1 percent death rate, nearly all (89 percent - 89 PERCENT) people who were elderly and/or had preexisting conditions. That's the worldwide pandemic. Meanwhile, I think we're all continuing to suffer long term consequences in one way or the other and will for years, maybe for the rest of our lives.
Oh, and I had elderly parents too. Every moment with them was precious. Thankfully they died in 2016 and 2019 so they didn't have to deal with COVID. I'm not making light of the fact that the US saw a .1 -not one percent but POINT ONE percent - uptick in deaths. I'm just saying that numbers are our friends. Let's use some perspective, since so many of us are going to be feeling the effects of this for many years to come.
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Perhaps because of the measures taken.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Perhaps and perhaps not. Here's what I know about viruses. They mutate. It does them no good to kill their host. They generally become more contagious and less deadly.
Maybe you're right and maybe you're not - guess we'll never know. But you do you and I'll do me. Me is, by the way, vaccinated and I've also had COVID, so there's all that. Oh and I wore masks for well over a year and rarely went anywhere for MONTHS. My hair...but I digress.
But we do know. There's a lot of data.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I see a lot of conflicting data. But like I said, you do you and I'll do me. I feel like I've been pretty responsible during the pandemic. I can't control what other people choose to do.