Pah said:
You persist in an off toppic vein to this thread. If you want to claim the historical nature of the bible, do so in another thread. But a word of advice - in all the threads that discussed/debated that issue, none proven the bible as history.
The topic was that Faith MUST be taught. I have shown a description of faith being engendered not by teaching but by an experience. Perhaps I am misunderstanding the nature of the OP?
Pah said:
The second is that I had specifically said, To twist that into a personal nature as if I attacked you is unfounded. Your actions in this regard are despicable.
There was NO attack... Merely disagreeing with you is not an attack, nor is it despicable. You are the only making any accusations. Should you want me to leave this discussion, just ask.
Pah said:
The third is that faith does not grow in scope until you hear or read the "addition". Using faith may increase its strength but it adds nothing to faith. It's bulking up a muscle instead of growing new muscles. Use of faith is not accusition of faith. How you get faith is the subject here.
The point of the passage I cited, was that faith often comes from direct observations or an experience. In that respect, it is not learned. You asked for ONE example, and I provided it. Quite often we only "learn" to believe when we come in direct contact with the phenomenon in the school of hard knocks. This happens even today when people are exposed to true believers. They see the promises revealed and so believe NOT because they are taught, but because they see the truth in all of it's glory. Of course, not everyone is open to the experience. That's "OK".
Pah said:
Your comparision to a brake pedal is flawed. I press it because I want to stop or slow down and am prepared to take alternate action when it fails.
Your faith is so complete in the brake pedal that you don't even see it as such. Yet, as you have pointed out, that faith is not always warranted, not that this will stop you from depressing the pedal whenever you want. I would suggest that faith controls MUCH of how we live our life. Just like those faulty brakes of yours, the outcome of a flawed faith may be quite tragic. Faith, like brakes are best when inspected frequently and adjusted, repaired or completely replaced.