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Featured Epilepsy = demonic possession!

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by JJ50, Sep 5, 2017.

  1. JJ50

    JJ50 Active Member

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    According to Matthew 17 v 14-18 it would appear Jesus believed those suffering from epilepsy were possessed by demons! In those far off days, it might have been forgivable for people to believe in such nonsense as a major epileptic seizure is very scary indeed. I have witnessed several as my husband has the condition after his brain haemorrhage in 2006, fortunately his meds control the seizures. In this day and age of modern medicine we know the cause of this condition, and of course mythical demons have nothing to do with it.

    I have come across some ultra extreme Biblical literalists who not only believe demons actually exist, but epileptics are possessed by them. Hopefully no one on this forum is that silly?
     
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    I apologise for the typo in the title of this thread!:oops:
     
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    It didn't say epilepsy. It says her son sometimes acts like a lunatic and falls in the fire or in the water. I actually witnessed someone who had fallen in the water. I was fishing one day and all a sudden I noticed someone out in the middle of the lake next to the bridge I was fishing near, then he started yelling "someone help me". I didn't feel like swimming so I called 911 and went to find the nearest boat. By the time I got back I found him soaking wet walking down the road. I asked what happened and He says he was looking off the bridge, leaned a little too far and fell in the water. He probably dropped 30 feet into the water. It could have been demons that pushed him off, could have been weed I can't say for sure.
     
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    I had a patient once who had been diagnosed with Alzheimer's. The family wanted to do an exorcism. That was a long day.
     
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    In the NIV Bible it mentions seizures, which are usually related to epilepsy.
     
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    Someone must have assumed they meant seizures and wrote it that way. But the older version says "acting like a lunatic". Either way though, I think they link all illness to demons. How that works i'm not sure, But for example in the book of Job, Satan caused all job's illness but his illnesses were physical illnesses. Epilepsy has a physical reason, but who brought it on the victim? Blessings are brought by Angles and curses are brought by Demons. Epilepsy is no blessing.
     
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    It is so sad that even today some think mythical demons exist and people are possessed by them.
     
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    I am "that silly". What of it? :angry:
     
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    Lyndon "Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
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    if you actually talk to a bona fide schizophrenic about what the voices say, some of them do sound like demons tormenting the poor guy, modern science would say the voices all come from inside his head, I'm not convinced.
     
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    Even today they cannot cure epilepsy or heal a lunatics mind, there must be something science is overlooking...
     
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    Brickjectivity I'm n ur cookeez
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    So sorry! I put a laugh on your post, because there wasn't a 'Sad' rating. :sob:
     
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    Meaning?
     
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    George-ananda Advaita Vedanta and Spiritualist and Pantheist
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    My thought is that epilepsy and demonic possession are two different things and I believe in both. I see epilepsy as someone having a brain seizure but then returning to their normal personality. Demonic possession I see as an evil entity feeding off a person's energy and trying to experience through that possessed person.
     
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    Meaning they can treat it, they can hack at the branches, but not cure it. When Jesus healed someone they were healed.
     
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    Yes.
    Also, Mediterranean males are much more susceptible to hysteria related conditions, and hysterical convulsions can be very very scary as well.
     
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    Joan of Arc might have been an epileptic, people couldn't decide if she was a saint or demon possessed, history says she was a saint and the clergy were the devils in sheeps clothing.
    Was Joan of Arc Epileptic? | The Future of the Mind
     
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    There is no evidence that anything attributed to the long dead Jesus had any basis in fact, especially the less than credible stuff like so called 'miracles'.
     
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    Maybe demons were on both sides, and also on the English. Could be demons everywhere causing wars and double crosses.
     
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