Epilepsy = demonic possession!

[Ubon]

That doesn't mean he was mentally ill. One way of looking at it is we're all the children of God.

He did however claim to be more then just a child of God.
Lets be honest he went well and truly beyond that.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

He did however claim to be more then just a child of God.
Lets be honest he went well and truly beyond that.

Depends on if he actually said all the things some people think he did. Or maybe he was just a pantheist. Jesus is largely whatever you want him to be.

 

[Ubon]

Depends on if he actually said all the things some people think he did. Or maybe he was just a pantheist. Jesus is largely whatever you want him to be.

So he is therefore the creation of each individuals minds as far as his characteristics rather then what he actually was.
Like all the 4 blind men touching an elephant and having different perceptions, all cannot be right and all perceptions mean nothing as the elephant is still an elephant regardless of your false perception.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

So he is therefore the creation of each individuals minds as far as his characteristics rather then what he actually was.
Like all the 4 blind men touching an elephant and having different perceptions, all cannot be right and all perceptions mean nothing as the elephant is still an elephant regardless of your false perception.

That goes for all ancient religious figures, including the Buddha. People project their own wants, needs and perceptions onto religious figures.

 

[oldbadger]

Looks like Jesus knew so much about medicine as His Dad about cosmology.
Ciao
- viole

No.... I have little doubt that Jesus thought that Stage 2 of epilepsy was Demonic possession, or stage three either death or after demonic evacuation, but if people looked to him to cast demons and maybe even make-alive then epileptic seizures would have appeared to them and him as casting demons and maybe bringing alive.

But 'cures' for blindness, strokes, paralysis, etc etc caused by hysteria, maybe because he just touched these, or pushed mud in their eyes, or whatever, would have seemed to be utterly miraculous.

How much do you know about the various conditions which were once bundled together as hysteria?

 

[oldbadger]

That goes for all ancient religious figures, including the Buddha. People project their own wants, needs and perceptions onto religious figures.

So true. We see what we want to see.

 

[oldbadger]

He was just a man as this proves, perhaps a little mentally ill himself as he believed he was the son of God.

All Jews thought they were the children of God.
But Jesus called himself a son-of-man in G-Mark.

 

[Ubon]

There is seeing what you are told to see, or not seeing which is through faith.

Or simply believing what you see.

 

[Muffled]

But what made him stupid? Demons?

I believe some people are born stupid.

 

[Muffled]

Just to tighten things up a bit, I looked at Matthew 17:15 in 56 Bibles and found there are nine different descriptions of the son's condition:

Is an epileptic
Has epilepsy
Is a Lunatic/Lunatick
Has seizures
Is mentally deranged
Shakes wildly
Is very sick and at times loses the use of his mind
Suffers from awful fits
A bad spirit is in him​

which Matthew 17:18 says is a condition evidently caused by (again, from the 56 versions):

A Demon
The Devil
An Evil/bad spirit​

whom Jesus rebuked, ordered, reprimanded, commanded, blamed, or spoke harshly to.

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I car pooled with an epileptic. I don't believe he ever had it try to throw him into a fire or drown him. Those things could happen accidentally but a syndrome of those things happening suggests an enemy at work.

 

[Muffled]

I've seen many seizures,there are different types from absence to to tonic clonic which is life threatening,sometimes strange noises from them and odd behaviour but its not a mythological creature doing it.

I believe your characterization is total fantasy on your part.

 

[England my lionheart]

I believe your characterization is total fantasy on your part.

I'll stick with science and you can stick with mythology,someone having a seizure being treated with medication isn't fantasy it works,so does preventative medication.

 

[England my lionheart]

I believe your characterization is total fantasy on your part.

I have been wondering what you would do for a person having a seizure,would you A,give them the medication (if tonic clinic seizure) or B,holy water,bit gothic but what would you do?.