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Enlightenment....Its Dark Side

Discussion in 'Psychology News' started by Revoltingest, Dec 29, 2020.

  1. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    Preferring isn't about being right or certain.
     
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    True

    The moment we can drop right and wrong, life gets a lot easier. Especially when debating
     
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    Or contemplating self indulgence.
     
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    Self indulgence is indeed a hard one to overcome
     
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    A little bit of Monica in my life ...
     
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  7. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    You're not doing it right.
     
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    We have a saying to the effect that its the root of all evil.
     
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    Is your meter from the Tate instrument company? The infamous compass maker?
    " He who has a Tate's is lost?'
     
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    That is quite a strong saying "root of all evil", but it can be quite destructive

    IF true THEN the antonym might point out how to solve that "evil"
     
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    Other than what comes from insanity, what evil is not based in self indulgence?
     
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    For once in my life I will use this vulgate expression rooted in a lack of scientific understanding but one I want to throw out here because I suspect I'm not the only one to notice.
    They needed a study for that? This group does include a large number of arrogant arses who try to force this "spiritual" thing on us, like a Muslim claiming we are all Muslim by default. They also like to broadcast they are spiritual and boast of their practices and routines. Sort of like a holier than thou vegan going on about their percieved superior moral position. And like the true believer with all the answers, we all just need to do what they do and we'll just fine.
     
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    Yes, true. At first I was taking it at a personal level "indulge in excessive eating, drinking", destroying one's own body, hence not really evil IMO. But when it comes to indulging in power and control of others easily evil starts

    Self indulgence might even be the root of insanity. At least IMO "evil is quite insane"
     
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    It's not. There are several different possible causes. Self indulgence is not one of them.
     
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    Not just in spirituality or vegans. What do you think of Hollywood and one girl more beautiful than the other? People are brainwashed with this idea that one is/knows better than the other all day long 24/07.
     
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    That is your opinion, you have not convinced me that is true
     
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    It's not so much of an opinion as it is drawing from education and professional background.
    Self indulgence doesn't cause mental illness, insanity or otherwise. Doing some is even good for our mental health, and none at all is damaging.
     
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    Yeah, but not all groups are equally prone to doing this. It does take a degree of dogma and adherence to it to promote beliefs as making one better and superior to others.
     
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    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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    Not true. We see narcs everywhere nowadays, and they are not spiritual at all (most of them)
     
  21. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    Reminds me of electric vehicles, which emit smug at the tailpipe.
     
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