Does Shari'a really call for executing homosexuals?

[Autodidact]

Women ARE treated equally in the Quran,

Doesn't that make you curious, Mr. Spinkles?

It makes me very curious. Because in Saudi Arabia, where you write, there is no equality or human rights for women. Women are not allowed to drive or vote. They may not marry, divorce, travel, enroll in college, get a job, open a bank account or have elective surgery without the permission of a male guardian. They may not leave their homes without wearing a tent that covers their entire bodies, including their face. Polygamy is legal, and marriage contracts are between the woman's father and her future husband. Her permission is not required. There is no minimum age for marriage; a father can marry off his infant daughter if he so chooses.

Etc. Etc. Etc.

This is what Tasha calls equality.

 

[Autodidact]

I think this been answered before. In the middle east it's normal for friends of the same gender to hold hands or kiss on cheek when they greet each other.

Oh God! a flirty look?! Who on earth gonna watch people and punish them over that. It's really frustrating to see such stupid questions Meow Mix, and sorry to say that.

By the way, you didn't answer me, why don't the FBI handle everything in the US instead of the local police?

Custom and history. That's not how we're set up. Enforcement of state laws is carried out by local police.

 

[Autodidact]

What you gonna do about it? You gonna invade each and every country which you feel very upset about how they live and govern themselves?

I was planning on discussing it here at RF, you?

That's really odd. It's one country right? they should just skip all that and let the FBI handle it all, don't you think?

No, I think most communities prefer local police.

 

[Autodidact]

Are you sure about that?


The Bible and homosexuality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Isn't this clear?

Wow, Pagan Buddhist saw you coming. Did you even read her post?

There is no prohibition against lesbianism anywhere in the Bible, just as there is none anywhere in the qur'an. No religion prohibits it, yet both punish it.

 

[Autodidact]

Christians are not confined to any one particular set of beliefs. That is what makes them unique.

Do you ever think before you post, or do you just say the first thing that comes into your mind?

 

[Autodidact]

Since you speak for the majority of good honest Christians what do you make of the following Church's positions



Christianity and homosexuality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

LIke most Christians, they ignore what the Bible actually says in favor of their own prejudices.

 

[kai]

It makes me very curious. Because in Saudi Arabia, where you write, there is no equality or human rights for women. Women are not allowed to drive or vote. They may not marry, divorce, travel, enroll in college, get a job, open a bank account or have elective surgery without the permission of a male guardian. They may not leave their homes without wearing a tent that covers their entire bodies, including their face. Polygamy is legal, and marriage contracts are between the woman's father and her future husband. Her permission is not required. There is no minimum age for marriage; a father can marry off his infant daughter if he so chooses.

Etc. Etc. Etc.

This is what Tasha calls equality.

To be fair i think thats what TashaN would call Saudi Arabia.

Whenever someone brings up Human rights in a "Islamic " country the stock answer is there are no truly Islamic countries. The Saudis do what the Saudis do i am afraid.

 

[Gloone]

Do you ever think before you post, or do you just say the first thing that comes into your mind?

I do, but it is clear that you don't.

 

[Gloone]

LIke most Christians, they ignore what the Bible actually says in favor of their own prejudices.

No, you are being way to general with the word Christian. Christians are independent religious people. Unlike say, Jehovah witnesses or Roman Catholics that actually follow a particular set of beliefs.

 

[Gloone]

Wow, Pagan Buddhist saw you coming. Did you even read her post?

There is no prohibition against lesbianism anywhere in the Bible, just as there is none anywhere in the qur'an. No religion prohibits it, yet both punish it.

I'm sure punishment could be a lot worse in the US besides the average you can't marry another person of the same sex or slander the word "gay" around to fit your own demeanor.

 

[nameless]

I was just pointing out it's the law in many Muslim and non-Muslim countries, that homosexual acts are not tolerated, like sodomy, etc. The same with marijuana which the law forbid of using in the US. It's about the law.

unlike drug-addiction homosexuality is natural, punishing them surely is hypocrisy ....
people should be matured to see the difference.

 

[Blackheart]

unlike drug-addiction homosexuality is natural, punishing them surely is hypocrisy ....
people should be matured to see the difference.

Your making the assumption that everyone sees homosexuality as natural. If they dont this arguement is flawed to the point of pointless.

 

[nameless]

Your making the assumption that everyone sees homosexuality as natural. If they dont this arguement is flawed to the point of pointless.

if at least a few homosexuals believes it is natural, then my argument is not pointless.

 

[Blackheart]

if at least a few homosexuals believes it is natural, then my argument is not pointless.

But if the Muslims you are referring to dont see it as natural then yes it is pointless trying to argue with them on that basis.

 

[nameless]

But if the Muslims you are referring to dont see it as natural then yes it is pointless trying to argue with them on that basis.

its upto homosexuals to decide whether their emotions are natural or not, others dont have any privilege to make conclusions.

 

[Blackheart]

its upto homosexuals to decide whether their emotions are natural or not, others dont have any privilege to make conclusions.

Your not getting what Im trying to say. If you are going to argue with people who think that homosexuality should be forbidden then to say to them that it shouldnt be forbidden because its natural wont work unless they agree that its natural. Im not saying they have the right to define homosexuality as natural or not im just saying that if they dont agree with the definition then they wont take it on board.

 

[ppɐʇɹnɯ]

Does it? I read about this in a thread from a Muslim friend, but I want to know if that's just one interpretation of Shari'a law or if any Shari'a law successfully implemented would indeed execute homosexuals?

The answer is yes. The quran says that it is a requirement to kill homosexuals and even effeminate men. Where effeminate men can mean someone who wears, say, a silk shirt. Punishments historically were beheading or burning them in a coffin, but today it's mostly done by hanging or firing squad in Islamic countries like Iran.

 

[Hijabihippie]

Coming Out Twice: Sexuality and Gender in Islam | Sexuality/Gender | Religion Dispatches

 

[.lava]

Does it? I read about this in a thread from a Muslim friend, but I want to know if that's just one interpretation of Shari'a law or if any Shari'a law successfully implemented would indeed execute homosexuals?

Sharia as i know it and as it is practiced by Ottomans for centuries don't have it. it is not said in Qur'an. but it is known as a big sin

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[Meow Mix]

Sharia as i know it and as it is practiced by Ottomans for centuries don't have it. it is not said in Qur'an. but it is known as a big sin

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I think we've talked about this before, this is actually an aaaancient thread that someone revived