Desert Snake
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Ok, vote whether it bothers you, there has been some criticism of this, on the forums.
Have a nice day!
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er.. not exactly - there was a whole thread about this not long ago: whats up with the "Xtians"????? | ReligiousForums.comXian is meaningless or just Lazy.
I would not normally bother with threads that start that way.
Ok, vote whether it bothers you, there has been some criticism of this, on the forums.
Have a nice day!
//disciple
We must get used to abbreviations in discussion forums because nearly everyone uses them.
They save time & space. And some express profanity without offending.
Some I like....
IRL, BTW, b4, 4sale
FUBAR, SNAFU
BTW
Xian, Xmas
USA, PRC
And we have posters' monikers:
4con, Brick, Rev Rick, St Frank, Rev (yers truly)
Urban Dictionary's entry for Xian....
This is an abbreviation for the word Christian. It comes from the Greek name for Christ, Xristos, and is essentially the same notation as we commonly see with Xmas.
Another variation on this is Xtian, although the addition of the extra t is not entirely proper.
Since it's a proper name, the "X" in "Xian" should be capitalized, just as is the "C" in "Christian" & the "G" in their "God".
I use the lower case when speaking of non-specific "gods".
Anything else is disrespectful or careless.
More blather....
"X" suggests several sounds to me, all depending context.
- "ks"
- A sound in between an "s" & "sh" in Chinese
- "kr"
Abbreviations are unnecessary, but this doesn't make them wrong.I notice some people use it not for abbreviation but to separate themselves from religion. Somewhat like saying, "I am not a Chistian, I have a relationship with Christ." Which is odd.
That, and its not Xtian. Thats English and latin syncrenism. Its Xριστόc or Christus. Taking the X out and puting it with English ending "tian", is odd. Plus, the letter X is not Christ. So, that and Xmas does not make sense. Maybe Xtus is more appropriate abreviation? I dont know.
I find it unnecessary in general. Why "wouldnt" a Christian want to use the word Christ? Maybe Christoc would be a good and interesting as an abbreviation too.
But X does not mean Christ. Xtian is English and latin sycrinism. Maybe Xtus would be good sense they are both latin or Xtoc. But Xtian just seems poor grammar if talking of linguistics. BTW are all English words shortened. Xtian is not.Abbreviations are unnecessary, but this doesn't make them wrong.
One might ask why I, a Libertarian Party member, would abbreviate it as "Lib".
It's informal & time saving. And I don't feel disrespected by it.
Note that I use "Dem" & "Pub" for "Democrat" & "Republican".
Alas, abbreviations lack strict regulation, & will have inconsistent constructions.But X does not mean Christ. Xtian is English and latin sycrinism. Maybe Xtus would be good sense they are both latin or Xtoc. But Xtian just seems poor grammar if talking of linguistics. BTW are all English words shortened. Xtian is not.
Xtian is an incorrect abbreviation. If I only only knew Latin, Id be confused with the tian. Likewise the reverse. BTW, for example, are all english words. OBGYN takes one English word shortens it. The appstrophy in didn't is correctly placed and english appropriate.We can't just start creating abbreviations we prefer, because then no one would know what they mean.
So we're stuck with language that's a mish mash
Alas, abbreviations lack strict regulation, & will have inconsistent constructions.
We can't just start creating abbreviations we prefer, because then no one would know what they mean.
So we're stuck with language that's a mish mash.
One I hate is the spoken abbreviation for "obstetrics & gynocology".
Instead of the more proper "OG", people spell out the first couple letters of each word, "o b g y n".
How dumb is that?
Of course....."Xian" is the preferred abbreviation.Xtian is an incorrect abbreviation.
"Obgyn" is actually an abbreviation for 3 different words (including "and").If I only only knew Latin, Id be confused with the tian. Likewise the reverse. BTW, for example, are all english words. OBGYN takes one English word shortens it. The appstrophy in didn't is correctly placed and english appropriate.
Abbreviations are made up.Meanwhile, X does not mean Christ. If someone wants to abbreviate Christ, they can say Xtus. Xtian IS a made up abbr. Abbr. arent made up.
That contradicts what you said here "We can't just start creating abbreviations we prefer, because then no one would know what they mean."Of course....."Xian" is the preferred abbreviation.
"Obgyn" is actually an abbreviation for 3 different words (including "and").
What grinds my gears is that people then partially spell out the words.
That is very non standard.
Abbreviations are made up.
Some become commonplace, even if they're of non-standard construction.
For example, "Xmas" has a long history....
Xmas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And regarding "X" for "Christ"......
Xmas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
What is contradictory?That contradicts what you said here "We can't just start creating abbreviations we prefer, because then no one would know what they mean."
Some people will be confused at times.Abbreviations are just that, shortened words or phrases. If I did not know that X is "half" of the word christ, I would be confused. If I did not know what abbr. were, Id be confused why Christ's name is not spelled out as Christ. Or use Xtoc, 'mas, or 'tian as an abbr.
One can always propose new abbreviations for words.If I used AbRe for abbreviate and I dont explain it, how would you know what Im talking about. Use one language in abb. Not two or more.
abbreviare (latin)
Abbreviations are made up.
"We can't just start creating abbreviations we prefer
I think so.Do you at understand what i am saying?
Certainly, every common abbreviation was made up by someone at some point in time.I think you mean people can make up abbr. as long as it is commonly used?
Perhaps you can popularize them.Why cant the abbr. for Christian be Xtus, 'tian, or 'mas? Most american abbr. formalwise are used correctly. BTW is all english. So if I put by the way and BTW beside each other, native or fluent english speakers would get the connection.
Again, I prefer "Xian" to "Xtian".Lt. And st., the L, T, S are used in the words they abbr.
The abbreviated word Abb. Uses the period to mark it as the first few letters of the shortened word.
Same with RPG ane the word Don't all have a pattern tonit. It is also all in English or an English (accepted as English word) word.
However, Xtian is neither of these. It does not have a ' as in 'tian. It does not have a Ch'stian. It doesnt even do this CTN. Its two languages put together. And the latin one is cut for just a letter that, in itself, does not mean Christ.
Its not the abbrev. There are formal ways to abbr. the words Christian and Christmas. Informally, it just looks off. It doesnt make sense and it is made up abbr. that is commonly accepted.
When a Jew says G-d they are using correct abbr. If they said GDd, Id be a little confused. Its not proper or well understood unless explained.
deus (latin)
I think so.
Certainly, every common abbreviation was made up by someone at some point in time.
Then they became popular.
Perhaps you can popularize them.
But until then, they wouldn't be recognized by us common folk.
Again, I prefer "Xian" to "Xtian".
It's shorter & understood.
If enuf people find it insulting, RF might even include it with other banned words.I understand as a preference. Generally speaking, its incorrect and personally, I fins it insulting Christ name.
Other than that, people can choose what they feel is appropriate. No big deal outside of RF