If jesus is god, then he wouldn't be the radiance of anything. He would be radiance.
I think you are getting it!
Matt 17:2 There he was transfigured before them.
His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light.
When you look beyond the physical... He
was radiance.
God speaks of christ as if he/christ were an angel. He puts christ (not himself) over the angels and speaks of christ as a separate person (a son) in relationship with himself. That relation-ship relates to separate people as one: say one friendship, one companionship, one marriage. We'd never say the husband and husband are the same people just because they are one in marriage.
I don't see where it is spoken as if he/Christ were an angel.
Hebrew 1:4 So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs.
(not superior among the angels)
5 For to which of the angels did God ever say, “You are my Son; today I have become your Father” ? Or again, “I will be his Father, and he will be my Son” ?
("did God ever say " denotes that He never said it to any angel)
So, it doesn't support the position that Jesus was an angel
And , yes, when Jesus was born-again he is refered to as a son. but not so as The Word who was God. (John 1:1)
That's why christ/human/person when he died sat at god's right hand (not his own) and put over the angles (as your other scripture above). If he were god, he wouldn't need to be put anywhere because he would be already above the angels. He would be the creator himself.
I don't think so. When he came to the earth and took on sin, he had left his glory in Heaven and thus he would have to be put back with his glory.
Think about it. The word
word in English can mean message (I send my word), a promise (I gave you my word), and, of course, a word itself (a single distinct meaningful element of speech or writing, used with others),
or,
Microsoft Word: A software program.
In the biblical sense, Word is Message of God made flesh.
Yes... it c
ould, but it isn't.
Besides, we are talking Greek and not English.
God/father made his son/jesus without sin; as so, making jesus equal to himself. While jesus is equal, he isn't the person he is equal to. It's really a play on language. The logic is that two things can be equal to each other, but they still remain to things separate in their own accord. Religion isn't an exception, unless, well, its a supernatural thing which, like Hinduism, kinda confuses the heck out of me with incarnations, gods, and so forth.
Except that the Apostle Thomas said Jesus was God and no one objected, not even Jesus. No play on language needed. Just simple straight forward statements.
Yes
Creator
Holy Spirit
and Christ
They do work together; but, it would be less confusing if you said that or stick with describing it by relationships. The word is really messes things up. No pun.
Anything not understood can be confusing. English was confusing for a while for me too... but when you learn, it is simple.
Separate (biblically speaking).
Spirit: Breathe of life
Soul: Life of the person (what's being "saved")
Body: Flesh and sin (to which the soul is being cleansed of)
When you use and; equal and relate two things with of, by, and image, there is no different purposes. They are all the same purpose. The only difference is you're using the word is where the bible doesn't use that word to refer to the relationship between spirit, soul, and flesh.
I think it is refered to in the Bible in multiple places including Romans 12:1-2 and 1 Thess 5:23 amongh many others.
Just trying to help one understand that we too are three and yet one. But we aren't God so at some point the analogy does deteriorate. But not the reality that there are still three parts of one God.
Hmm. Each person of the trinity is god, but god is not all people of the trinity?
Clarification??
Context "
Gotta be blunt. If its both, its paganism. Greek and Roman deify humans. Those they do are usually kings and people of religious honor. They deified the dead not the living. Those that did were human except for their eternal nature; thats what made them gods. They lived forever. Other than that, they were just like us."
just because some people diefy humans doesn't mean that Jesus is included in the mix. Besides, we didn't deify Jesus, Jesus (deity) decided to become human.
Actually, this is more history than spiritual. The Christian faith is in part Roman (little later in time) but definitely Catholic not protestant. As such, they still have traditions such as venerating those who died and treating those who have died no different than those physically living in heaven. What's interesting is non-liturgical protestants stepped away from the historical part that makes up christianity and just keep the spiritual part. They both go together. If I want to know about the bible and who christ is, I'd go to protestants. If I want the full shabang, history, personal understanding, devotion, and all, I'd go to the Catholic Church. None are bad in itself just they do have histories of confrontation.
I would have to disagree... Christianity was not Roman, it was Christian. With Constantinople it became Catholic and then with the "protest" it moved towards Christianity again.
As a matter of history
But I get the drift and certainly there is much to gain during the Catholic period.
Actually, biblically, it does say satan could mask himself as an angel of light.
Which could be making christians see one thing but in truth its something else. Never liked the word counterfeit and separating other religions as false from one's own truth. But I get what you're sayin'
it could
