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Do bible and coran present a sadistic god?

ChristineM

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Amanaki said:
When looking at the dead sea scrolls it is easy to see that words and meaning in the bible today have different meanings. And if we look at the bible of today, The part where they discuss homosexuality has been changed so it looks like it is ok when it was, in the beginning, clear that homosexual act was seen as a sin. Today the word sin has been removed because it is "evil" to call someone a sinner. So yes the scripture has been changed and lost its true meaning in many ways. And if I remember correctly it even says in the bible, You should not change even one word of the truth that was given in the teaching.
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I cant say i have seen any bible that condones homosexuality, on the contrary, most christians will cite verses that condemn homosexuality.

There are many instances of the word sin (or derivatives, sinner, sinned etc) in the bible. Even modern ones.

And if i had a euro for every time i have been called a evil and a sinner because i dont bow to any god, wow, rich beyond dreams
 
sealchan

sealchan

Well-Known Member
Amanaki said:
Yes, But that is probably mostly a translation done from greek over to English and to other languages to make it more easy to pronounce.
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Joshua would have been closer. But Jesus doesnt sound as well...Jewish?

It is ironic when those who look to the Bible for perfection miss the hand of humanity in this and in so many other ways.
 
Spirit of Light

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
ChristineM said:
I cant say i have seen any bible that condones homosexuality, on the contrary, most christians will cite verses that condemn homosexuality.

There are many instances of the word sin (or derivatives, sinner, sinned etc) in the bible. Even modern ones.

And if i had a euro for every time i have been called a evil and a sinner because i dont bow to any god, wow, rich beyond dreams
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Well as far as i know you, you don`t follow any teaching of any God so i would not expect you to bow to any of them either :)
Even i am not a Christian i do get news about how Church in Norway do it, and it has been a huge change the last 10 years or so (maybe more) about gay marriage, gay priests and so on. even it was not allowed before, they change it to fit the "new time". Why do they change something that was supposed to come from God? No matter if we believe in God or not, Why change it, just because it does not fit "our time"? If we going to change religious teachings because we can not follow it as it was intended?
I don't speak about Atheists or other religions here. only for those who actually follow Christian teaching
 
Forumer

Forumer

New Member
Amanaki said:
Why is it that people who want to smear religion are only able to find what can look negative within the religious texts, but they ignore all the love and kindness with in the same book?
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Because it is fake love and kindness.

After reading bible and coran, it is obvious that god is not good, not perfect and not all-powerful.
Indeed, if he were all that he would just wished to share his happiness with the beings he created.

We see that god is unable to love without torturing scapegoats.
It is perverse, cruel and ugly.

god is "jealous" so he is frustrated so he suffers and needs scapegoats to torture just as human beings like to do.

That's all.

Pornography shows perfectly this deep pleasure that human beings enjoy with humiliation.
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loverofhumanity

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
Forumer said:
Yes, definetly.
Judge by yourself :

- bible (deuteronome 28:63)
"the eternal will take pleasure make you perish and destroy you"

- bible (10 orders)
"because I am a jealous god"


- the coran allows slavery and even sexual slavery :


god is a sadistic *** with no ball but with 100% arrogance and cruelty.
god needs your ignorance and stupidity.
god mixes good with evil because god is evil but hides his evilness behind the good acts of humans.
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People who obey the Bible are amongst the most peaceful and kind loving humans on this planet.
 
icehorse

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
Amanaki said:
Why is it that people who want to smear religion are only able to find what can look negative within the religious texts, but they ignore all the love and kindness with in the same book?
What about all the verses in the bible about loving our neighbors or what about love and respect for your parents? What is so negative or wrong with that?
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That's because we're told that these clearly imperfect books must be held as perfect. If religious people would relax with their claims of scriptural perfection, we could more easily accept the positive aspects.
 
Spirit of Light

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
icehorse said:
That's because we're told that these clearly imperfect books must be held as perfect. If religious people would relax with their claims of scriptural perfection, we could more easily accept the positive aspects.
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I see your point :) And I agree that some religious people do hold the book more highly than their own practice of what the book says. This could, of course, lead to a fault in their understanding of the truth, if they practice wrong, how will they understand truth.
 
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Earthtank

Active Member
Forumer said:
Yes, definetly.
Judge by yourself :

- bible (deuteronome 28:63)
"the eternal will take pleasure make you perish and destroy you"

- bible (10 orders)
"because I am a jealous god"


- the coran allows slavery and even sexual slavery :


god is a sadistic *** with no ball but with 100% arrogance and cruelty.
god needs your ignorance and stupidity.
god mixes good with evil because god is evil but hides his evilness behind the good acts of humans.
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NO
 
sealchan

sealchan

Well-Known Member
Amanaki said:
Well as far as i know you, you don`t follow any teaching of any God so i would not expect you to bow to any of them either :)
Even i am not a Christian i do get news about how Church in Norway do it, and it has been a huge change the last 10 years or so (maybe more) about gay marriage, gay priests and so on. even it was not allowed before, they change it to fit the "new time". Why do they change something that was supposed to come from God? No matter if we believe in God or not, Why change it, just because it does not fit "our time"? If we going to change religious teachings because we can not follow it as it was intended?
I don't speak about Atheists or other religions here. only for those who actually follow Christian teaching
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What came from God has always come through man.
 
sealchan

sealchan

Well-Known Member
Amanaki said:
In what way is it fake?
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That the hand of humanity is in the "words of God" doesn't make it fake. The words of God have always been that which is translated into the understanding of humanity. It is always a balance never just one or the other. Where does God's creation leave off and humanities' ingenuity begin?
 
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