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Democrats propose temporary measure to avert shutdown

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Stevicus, Nov 19, 2019.

  1. Stevicus

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    Days From Shutdown Deadline, Congress Races To Pass Temporary Government Funding Bill

    This would keep the government open another month. The current deadline is Thursday, so they have to pass something quickly, or else the government might shut down.

    Last time, it was closed for 35 days, the longest shutdown in history.
     
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    Revoltingest Greased up & ready for action!
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    And the most elusive of all....a balanced budget.
     
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    Congress is supposed to be able to stop the government on a dime, but because so many things depend on the federal government the standoffs aren't effective. They always come up with temporary measures.
     
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    You expect a balanced budget from unbalanced congressmen?

    I move to fund the government Monday through Friday and to leave the weekends free.
     
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    I bet the government would work if we replaced the president with a temp. "Get the government moving and we might hire you."
     
  7. shmogie

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    A balanced budget, not a chance.

    Most organizations have a budget in place at the beginning of the fiscal year. Congress never does.
     
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    Hmmm, the President nor the executive branch gives final approval on budgets. It is up to congress.
     
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    You must understand, the US decision-making system only functions fairly well in a crisis. If it doesn't have one, it has to create it.
     
  10. sun rise

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    True but given the growing distance between the two parties, it's to be expected.
     
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    The president can sign or veto a budget.
     
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    We actually did have a surplus during Clinton's presidency. Then Republicans took over, passed a tax cut and turned the country back to deficit. Then we had the Trump tax cut which made the deficit much worse.

    One of the supreme policies of Republicans that I loathe is borrow and spend. It's one of the policy reasons I prefer Democrats - deficits are cut when they are in office. Yes, it's by raising taxes, but taxes are better than deficits.
     
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    The president joins a political party and is guided by that party and is in league with members in congress. The president is the leader of their party, too; and so can both influence congress through their party and require a 2/3 vote on any budget or sign any budget which gets the approval of a simple majority. Hence the president has more influence on the budget than any single member of congress and can sometimes control the budget. Its a matter of skill, statesmanship and public support.
     
  14. columbus

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    This is one of the reasons I stopped voting for Republicans. "Borrow and Spend"

    Republicans will complain about the tax and spend Democrats. But they won't admit that borrow and spend is far worse. It's the reason that the Republicans have become the party of fiscal insanity. The federal deficit and debt go up when the Republicans are in control.
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    Uh, you left out eight years under Obama, in which the deficit was doubled. Obama increased the deficit more than all previous Presidents, combined.
     
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    It has to come out of congress first.
     
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    columbus Conservative Catholic from Hell

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    Here's the part you pretend to miss.
    Obama was stuck with the fiscal disaster left by the Republicans. Obama didn't plunge this country into even worse fiscal disasters by reniging on the promises that the Republicans made. Or letting the manufacturing and banking industries go belly up.

    Then you Republicans started blaming him for the fiscal insanity.
    Tom
     
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    So, the Republicans were responsible for bad risk loans, those that brought on the events of 2008 ?

    What promises did the Republicans make that required doubling the deficit ?

    So you believe that if an industry makes terrible financial decisions, it is up to the taxpayers to bail them out ?
     
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