Danny Ayalon denies the existence of Palestine

[FearGod]

Israel's Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs Danny Ayalon denies the existence of Palestine.

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The REAL truth about Palestine in response to Danny Ayalon - YouTube

 

[CMike]

He's right.

So?

 

[Caladan]

Well while I get their point about the existence (today) of a Palestinian Arab population, their video did not refute a single argument of Ayalon. If anything the first 4 minutes of the video actually validate Ayalon's arguments; Palestine is a geographical term, which was related to possibly dozens of communities and religions. From about 4 minutes in the video they actually start spreading disinformation. And I've noticed that they cut some of the most essential minutes of Ayalon's original video about the comparison of Middle Eastern Jews like him who were expelled from other region of the Middle East only to be welcomed in Israel and become a citizen and the fact that there is a systematic perpetuation of Palestinian refugee status.

Tsk tsk tsk.

 

[CMike]

The name "Palestine" might have existed but it never existed an independent arab state.

It was colony of the British, then it was part of the Ottomon Empire.

The UN divided it between Israel and "Palestine". However, the arabs didn't recognize the division and invaded Israel in order to destroy the country.

Therefore, they can't go back because it work out the way the liked.

As far as athe 1967 war, Egypt and Syria were constantly calling for destroying Israel. They were massing on the border for an attack.

Israel was well within it's right to make a pre emptive strike.

It was far outnumbered and outgunned. What benefit would there be for waiting to be invaded and fighting a defensive rather than an offensive war.

Here is a little video on it.

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Six Day War - Call For Destruction of Israel - YouTube

Here are some Nasser statements.

Quotes by Gamal Abdel Nasser, 1954-1967 - CojsWiki.

Quotes by Gamal Abdel Nasser, 1954-1967.


May 8, 1954

"Israel is an artificial state which must disappear."

21 May 1962, President Nasser of Egypt

“Insistence of our people on liquidating the Israeli aggression on a part of the Palestine land is a determination to liquidate one of the most dangerous pockets of imperialist resistance against the struggle of the peoples.”
Source: Record of Aggression: the Arab Design for Israel’s Annihilation, Israel Information Services, New York: 1967.

23 December 1962, President Nasser of Egypt

“We feel that the soil of Palestine is the soil of Egypt, and of the whole Arab world. Why do we all mobilize? Because we feel that the land of Palestine is part of our land, and we are ready to sacrifice ourselves for it.”
Source: Record of Aggression: the Arab Design for Israel’s Annihilation, Israel Information Services, New York: 1967, p. 8.

2 April 1963, President Nasser of Egypt

“Israel emerged because the Arab world was weak and divided into small states devoid of character, but unity will mean triumph and the liquidation of Israel. Israel was alarmed in 1956 at the sight of the United Arab Military Command…If the United Command worried her, how will things look if unity is achieved…Israel is now indulging in hysterical activities out of fear of (Arab) unity, and if she is using the Egyptian rockets affair as a pretext, this means that the rockets are doubling her adversity.”
“The airplane construction project in Egypt is causing Israel great anxiety and is terrorizing her. We have started the construction of planes whose speed is twice the speed of sound. Scientific research in Egypt is also arousing great fear, and scientific development is causing sleeplessness in Israel.
Source: Record of Aggression: the Arab Design for Israel’s Annihilation, Israel Information Services, New York: 1967, p. 11-12.

October 10, 1963

“We shall not enter Palestine with its soil covered in sand. We shall enter it with its soil saturated in blood.” (March 8, 1965)
In describing the war that will bring about Israel’s liquidation, it is repeatedly emphasize that this will be total war to the death, as stated in the order of the day issued by the Commander of the Egyptian Third Division on February 15, 1956:
“Every commander is to prepare himself and his subordinates for the inevitable campaign with Israel in which we are fully immersed, for the purpose of fulfilling our exalted aim, namely, the annihilation of Israel and her extermination in the shortest possible time, in the most brutal and cruel battles.” (A copy of this order was attached to Prime Minister Ben-Gurion’s letter of November 14, 1956 to Bulganin – see Israel Government Year Book, 1959/60, p. 36)
“Why do you want to throw the Jews into the sea?”
Nasser:
“Colonization and Zionism combined to dispossess the inhabitants and establish a State founded on religion. How is it possible to accept the status quo when the Arabs were expelled, their property plundered and their women and children murdered?...Peace must be based on justice. The problem will not come to an end until justice is done. The Arabs fought the Crusaders, the Arabs have lived in the region for thousands of years…” (Egyptian Gazette, October 10, 1963)
Source: Harkabi, Y. Arab Attitudes To Israel, Trans. By Misha Louvish, New York: Hart Pub. Co., 1972, p. 35.

22 February 1964, President Nasser of Egypt

“The possibilities of the future will be war with Israel. It is we who will dictate the time; it is we who will dictate the place.
Source: Record of Aggression: the Arab Design for Israel’s Annihilation, Israel Information Services, New York: 1967, p. 12.

April 23, 1964

“We swear to God that we shall not rest until we restore Arab nationalism to Palestine and Palestine to the Arab nation. There is no room for imperialism and there is no room for Britain in our country, just as there is no room for Israel within the Arab nation.” (Speech at San’a)
Harkabi, Y. Arab Attitudes To Israel, Trans. By Misha Louvish, New York: Hart Pub. Co., 1972, p. 4.

January 16, 1965

Imperialism and its helpers…used to say here in Egypt: What have you to do with the Arabs? And in the other countries they used to say: What have you to do with the Egyptians?
Source: Arab Attitudes to Israel

March 8, 1965

"We shall not enter Palestine with its soil covered in sand. We shall enter it with its soil saturated in blood."
A few months later, Nasser expressed the Arabs’ goal to be:
"…the full restoration of the rights of the Palestinian people. In other words, we aim at the destruction of the State of Israel. The immediate aim: perfection of Arab military might. %The national aim: the eradication of Israel."
Source: What Led To The Six Day War?

25 May 1965, Joint Declaration of President Nasser of Egypt and President Aref of Iraq
“The political leadership emphasizes its commitment to the decision of the Summit Conference regarding the plan of collective Arab action for the liberation of Palestine. In accordance with that plan the Arab national aim is the elimination of Israel.”
Source: Record of Aggression: the Arab Design for Israel’s Annihilation, Israel Information Services, New York: 1967, p. 6.

16 September 1965

“The war with Israel is an inevitable thing. This war could break out in another five or ten years. The Arabs waited seventy-five years until they succeeded in chasing out the Crusaders…”
Source: Record of Aggression: the Arab Design for Israel’s Annihilation, Israel Information Services, New York: 1967, p. 13.

May 23, 1967

In 1956, the United Stats gave Israel assurances that it recognized the Jewish State’s right of access to the Straits of Tiran. In 1957, at the UN, 17 maritime powers declared that Israel had a right to transit the Strait. Moreover, any blockade violated the Convention on the Territorial Sea and Contiguous Zone, which was adopted by the UN Conference on the Law of the Sea on April 27, 1958. Nonetheless, on the night of May 22-23, 1967 Egypt closed the Straits of Tiran to all Israeli shipping and all ships bound for Eilat. This blockade cut off Israel’s only supply route with Asia and stopped the flow of oil from its main supplier, Iran.
Nasser was fully aware of the pressure he was exerting to force Israel’s hand. The day after the blockade was set up, he said defiantly:
"The Jews threaten to make war. I reply: Welcome! We are ready for war."


As far as arab leaders and the terrorists being called nuts, well they are.

The terroists target civilians. They have attacked school buses, restaurants, train stations, trains, buses, markets, etc.

They then hide behind their own women and children. They launch attacks from hospitals and mosques because they know the jews have morality whereas they don't.

Also their school textbooks are very similar to textbooks that Hitler would write about the jews.

 

[LuisDantas]

This issue keeps disorienting me. Time and again I have seen context-lacking statements, mainly from Jewish-aligned sources, to the effect that Palestine in some sense did not traditionally exist until perhaps very recently.

Seeing how it is such an arbitrary call (as anything else involving whether some country or comunity "really exists" as such), I wonder why that would even be perceived as of any importance. Is it related to accusations of Israel displacing Palestinians, perhaps?

 

[CMike]

This issue keeps disorienting me. Time and again I have seen context-lacking statements, mainly from Jewish-aligned sources, to the effect that Palestine in some sense did not traditionally exist until perhaps very recently.

Seeing how it is such an arbitrary call (as anything else involving whether some country or comunity "really exists" as such), I wonder why that would even be perceived as of any importance. Is it related to accusations of Israel displacing Palestinians, perhaps?

It is pretty clear.

"Palestine" didn't exist as an independent arab state.

It was a Brtish Colony. Before that it was part of the Ottomon Empire.

The so called "west bank' was actually part of Jordan.

 

[LuisDantas]

It is pretty clear.

Hardly.

"Palestine" didn't exist as an independent arab state.

If you say so. I doubt the very existence of such a thing as an "independent state" anyway, be it arab or otherwise, so your statement does not clarify anything to me.

It was a British Colony. Before that it was part of the Ottomon Empire.

The so called "west bank' was actually part of Jordan.

That may very well be.

All the same, those are all arbitrary labels that only have meaning if one decided to lend them such meaning.

None of that tells me anything at all about their rights, existence or even extent of political autonomy.

 

[CMike]

Hardly.



If you say so. I doubt the very existence of such a thing as an "independent state" anyway, be it arab or otherwise, so your statement does not clarify anything to me.




That may very well be.

All the same, those are all arbitrary labels that only have meaning if one decided to lend them such meaning.

None of that tells me anything at all about their rights, existence or even extent of political autonomy.

Judea and Samaria are part of Israel. Numerous times Israel has offered the arabs autonomy for almost that entire land. They have refused.

They seek the destruction of Israel - period.

Everything else is a means to that end.

 

[LuisDantas]

Judea and Samaria are part of Israel. Numerous times Israel has offered the arabs autonomy for almost that entire land. They have refused.

I take it that Judea and Samaria are claimed as traditional Palestinian territories then?

They seek the destruction of Israel - period.

Everything else is a means to that end.

No doubt that is true for many Arabs, but that does not help me in understanding why the matter of whether Palestine "existed" is of significance.

Then again, I am the sort of person who can only wonder what people mean when they talk about "owning" territory.

 

[FearGod]

The terroists target civilians. They have attacked school buses, restaurants, train stations, trains, buses, markets, etc.

They then hide behind their own women and children. They launch attacks from hospitals and mosques because they know the jews have morality whereas they don't.

Also their school textbooks are very similar to textbooks that Hitler would write about the jews.

Please Stop the lies.

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ZIONIST EVIL ISRAEL THE TRUTH - YouTube

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Israel Crimes


A brave American woman killed by the Israeli soldiers because she helped the Palestinians by peaceful means

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Rachel Corrie Tribute - YouTube

See More

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israel crimes in Palestine... - YouTube

Do you still feel OK

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The Palestinian Tragedy The holocaust in GAZA - YouTube

 

[CMike]

I take it that Judea and Samaria are claimed as traditional Palestinian territories then?

No. There was no such thing as an independent "Palestine".

They are part of Israel.

No doubt that is true for many Arabs, but that does not help me in understanding why the matter of whether Palestine "existed" is of significance.

Then again, I am the sort of person who can only wonder what people mean when they talk about "owning" territory.

It seems it's a big deal to the arabs.

However, if they want to play that game, Israel (the territory) belonged to the jews thousands of years ago. They were ruled by King David and King Solomon.

The problem too is that Israel is a very tiny state. It's about the size of NJ.

The arab states are about the size of the US with many of the arab states still in a technical state of war with Israel.

So to give up parts of it's little terroritory to people out to destroy them for some vague promises of peace would be suicidal and reckless toward it's people.

 

[WonderWho]

Most people don't realize that Jordan, which was Trans-Jordan, occupies over 70% of what was Palestine.

 

[Juhurka]

Most people don't realize that Jordan, which was Trans-Jordan, occupies over 70% of what was Palestine.

That not exactly correct, Jordan too is occupying Jewish land. British designated what today is Jordan as Palestine, that was illegal, mandate doe not grant you the power to divide the land. All of that land is Jewish so Arabs can go..... What ever they want to them self's.

Arabs come from the Arabian desert they are not from Palestine/Israel, there is a perception that Arabs are the owners of the Middle East, that is factually wrong, Middle East is home to many groups of people and religions including Jews, so in reality Arabs can have......!

 

[LuisDantas]

How can anyone truly be the owner of some land? I just don't see it.

 

[CMike]

Please Stop the lies.

[youtube]wYAri0jQUAg[/youtube]

A brave American woman killed by the Israeli soldiers because she helped the Palestinians by peaceful means

[youtube]iz0Vef4Fu8U[/youtube]
Rachel Corrie Tribute - YouTube

See More

[youtube]pCbthAvvKiY[/youtube]
israel crimes in Palestine... - YouTube

Do you still feel OK

[youtube]ikHf6AN3Y-M[/youtube]
The Palestinian Tragedy The holocaust in GAZA - YouTube

Perhaps if the arab terrorists in judea and samaria stopped hiding behind their women and children they wouldn't be killed or injured.

Also they attack from hospitals and mosques hoping to generate a response for propoganda.

As far as Rachel Corrie walking in front of an armored bulldozer that has very little visibility is really a very stupid idea. She killed herself.

The arab dictatorships spew their hatred to their own children, and that's one of the reasons we have perpetual hate from them.

Incitement, Antisemitism and Hatred of Israel in Palestinian School Textbooks

Incitement, Antisemitism and Hatred of Israel
in Palestinian School Textbooks

(November 2001)




Main Points:

• 
  The textbooks used in the Palestinian Authority school system, from elementary through high school, are replete with strong expressions of hatred towards Israel, negation of its right to exist and praise for the struggle against it, as well as antisemitic expressions against the Jews.
• 
  In these textbooks, Israel is described as "a country of gangs, born in crime." The Jews are arrogant and sly traitors, and Zionism is a racist movement and a "germ."
• 
  From this point of view, the Oslo Accords are described as "a move to get the Palestine Liberation Army into the territories," and support for jihad is emphasized.
• Thus, Palestinian youth are educated from birth in an atmosphere of religious and nationalist incitement, with no trace of anything positive regarding Israel, which results in a deepening of their hatred towards Israel, a fanning of the flames of violence and encouragement and justification of terrorism against the State of Israel and against Jews.

Elaboration
1. In the eight years that have elapsed since the establishment of the Palestinian Authority, the Palestinian educational system has been using Jordanian and Egyptian textbooks. It is only in the past academic year that the Palestinian Ministry of Education has added textbooks to the curriculum that were specially written for the 1st and 6th grades and this year, according to reports, for the 2nd and 7th grades as well.
2. The Jordanian textbooks, intended for all students in high schools and most of the classes in the elementary schools, abound in expressions of incitement and hatred that were reintroduced when the educational system was transferred from Israeli to Palestinian responsibility. These books are indicative of the "war to the death" mentality against Israel and Zionism and everything that they represent.



3. Following are some examples of incitement, hatred towards Israel and antisemitism, according to subject:

1. 
   <LI type=a>The Jewish people - the textbooks are replete with antisemitic expressions of hatred and hostility towards the Jewish people, including references from the Koran attesting to the corrupt, dishonest character of the Jews, who are also anti-Islam. They claim that, according to the Talmud, the Jews believe that the human animal was created to serve them and that it is permitted to deceive the gentiles, who have satanic souls.
   
   <LI type=a>Jerusalem - Israelis covet Jerusalem above all else. They burned the Al Aksa mosque in 1969 as part of the Zionist plan to take control of Haram al-Sharif (the Temple Mount) and to destroy the Muslim buildings there, in order to build their Temple. It is incumbent on the Arab army to liberate the mosques from the thieving conqueror.
   
   <LI type=a>Zionism - Zionism is a threat to the Arabs, and all Arabs are obligated to fight it; the Zionist germ must be expunged from the Arab nation. Teachers’ guides for the 10th and 12th grades explain that Zionism is a racist movement that aspires to Judaize Palestine by expelling its Arab residents. Furthermore, Zionist ideology is more racist, extremist and aggressive than other ideologies (of the 20th century) and established a Jewish political entity in Palestine that threatens the security of the Arab homeland.
   
   <LI type=a>Jihad - already in the 2nd grade, Palestinian pupils learn that Jordanian young men are eager to sacrifice their lives for the jihad, to defend the Arab character of Palestine. Another textbook states that the Arabs and the Muslims will fight the Jews who evicted them from their homes. In the 8th grade, the students learn that the usurpers have crossed all boundaries and therefore the time has come for jihad, to unsheathe the sharp sword.
   The Iz a-Din al-Kassam receives much praise in descriptions of Palestinian bravery, and the battle of Karama is described as resulting from the Zionist lust for expansion. Stone-throwers are also glorified in these books.
   
   <LI type=a>Israel - The name "Israel" does not appear on the maps, and Jewish cities are not mentioned. Tel Aviv is called "Jaffa." In the 5th grade, discussion is devoted to the question: Why must we fight the Jews and expel them from our land? In the 7th grade, the children learn that 1948 was the year of "the Great Crime," when "the gang state" was established by seizing control of cities and villages and mistreating the residents.
   
2. The "Right of Return" - Eighth-graders are taught a song about Jaffa, promising to return from the diaspora and the prisons. An 8th grade history textbook explains that Israel’s close ties with imperialism made its establishment possible.

4. Although there is a certain moderation of the militant terminology in the textbooks edited by the PA, they contain no recognition of Israel. Expressions of an Anti-Zionist and anti-Jewish character are still to be found in them, although in an ambiguous and insinuated way.



5. Some of the negative elements found in the textbooks are described below:

1. <LI type=a>No recognition of Israel - Israel is not mentioned as a state, but rather in the context of issues such as the settlements and use of natural resources, or wars and investigations. The borders of the state are not delineated and its name does not appear on maps, which bear the name "Palestine". Some maps contain the names of cities that existed before the establishment of the state; others show Jewish settlements only in the territories, but do not reflect the true situation there.
   <LI type=a>The Palestinian ambition to rule over all of the Land of Israel - A photograph of the city of Jaffa identifies it as a Palestinian city, and a picture of the Al-Jazzar mosque in Akko bears the caption: "Palestine is Our Land." Students are expected to aspire to the unification of Palestine and to understand that the Palestinians, descendants of the Canaanites, have first rights to the land.
   <LI type=a>The struggle against Israel - the "Right Of Return" - The textbooks state that the refugee camps are temporary quarters, until the residents return to the places that they were forced to abandon. One book contains a song praising Iz a-Din al-Kassam as the heroic figure of the struggle. Jihad is taught as a value for the citizen who desires to defend his homeland. Using any and all available means is presented as a religious imperative, and anyone killed in the course of defending his homeland becomes a "shaheed" (martyr) - all this is included in a textbook for the 6th grade.
2. The Oslo Accords - The accords are described as a move that enabled the Palestinian liberation army to entrench itself in the territories. Principles such as normalization and coexistence are, of course, not even mentioned.

6. In the eight years since the signing of the Oslo Accords, another generation of pupils has been educated to believe that the establishment of the State of Israel was "the Big Crime" and that the Palestinians, together with the Arab and Muslim states, must fight it to "the death."
7. The pace at which the PA is working to change the content of the textbooks is slow and does not reveal much enthusiasm, to say the least, towards fulfilling the explicit Palestinian commitment "to educate pupils in the spirit of the peace agreement." That the PA is dealing with this subject unwillingly, under Israeli and international pressure, is obvious from the meagerness of the results.

 

[CMike]

Below are some statements from Hamas.

Hamas in Their Own Words

Hamas in Their Own Words

Posted: May 2, 2011​

"We regard this as a continuation of the American policy based on oppression and the shedding of Muslim and Arab blood…We condemn the assassination and the killing of an Arab holy warrior. We ask God to offer him mercy with the true believers and the martyrs."
​

(Ismail Haniyeh, head of the Hamas administration in the Gaza Strip commenting on the killing of Osama Bin Laden, May 2, 2011)

"Whoever is killed by a Jew receives the reward of two martyrs, because the very thing that the Jews did to the prophets was done to him.
"The Jews are the most despicable and contemptible nation to crawl upon the face of the Earth, because they have displayed hostility to Allah.
"Allah will kill the Jews in the hell of the world to come, just like they killed the believers in the hell of this world.
"The Jews kill anyone who believes in Allah. They do not want to see any peace whatsoever on Earth."
​

(Sermon delivered by 'Atallah Abu Al-Subh, former Hamas minister of culture, which aired on Al-Aqsa TV, April 8, 2011, translation by MEMRI).

“We cannot agree to a programme that is intended to poison the minds of our children…Holocaust studies in refugee camps is a contemptible plot and serves the Zionist entity with a goal of creating a reality and telling stories in order to justify acts of slaughter against the Palestinian people."
​

(Statement from Hamas Ministry of Refugee Affairs on U.N. Relief and Works Agency plan to include Holocaust education in the curriculum taught Palestinian refugees, February 28, 2011)

"The lie of the Zionist Holocaust crumbles with countless holocausts committed by the Zionists in Beit Hanoun, al-Fakhoura school and other places in Palestine."
​

(Hamas leader Mahmoud al-Zahar, speaking at a memorial service for Palestinians killed during the 2008 Israeli war in Gaza, January 6, 2011)

"Palestine is Islamic, and not an Islamic emirate, from the river to the sea, that unites the Palestinians. Jews have no right in it, with the exception of those who lived on the land of Palestine before World War I."
​

(Hamas official Halil Al-Hayya, Al-Hayat newspaper, November 11, 2010)

"We have liberated Gaza, but have we recognized Israel? Have we given up our lands occupied in 1948? We demand the liberation of the West Bank, and the establishment of a state in the West Bank and Gaza, with Jerusalem as its capital – but without recognizing [Israel]. This is the key – without recognizing the Israeli enemy on a single inch of land. ...
"Our plan for this stage is to liberate any inch of Palestinian land, and to establish a state on it. Our ultimate plan is [to have] Palestine in its entirety. I say this loud and clear so that nobody will accuse me of employing political tactics. We will not recognize the Israeli enemy. "
​

(Hamas leader Mahmoud Al-Zahhar, Future News TV, June 15, 2010, Source: MEMRI.org)

Hamas "must lay the foundation for a tomorrow without Zionists."
​

(Hamas leader Mahmoud a-Zahar, Al-Aqsa TV, January 4, 2009)

"We are stronger, and more determined, and have more will, and we will hold onto our rights even more than before."
​

(Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh, December 28, 2008)

"This is the time for the third uprising... Resistance will continue through suicide missions."
​

(Hamas leader-in-exile Khaled Mashaal, Damascus, Syria, December 27, 2008)

"Hamas will continue the resistance until the last drop of blood."
​

(Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum, calling for a resumption of suicide attacks on Gaza radio, December 27, 2008)

"Israel will pay a heavy price for its crimes against the Palestinians. Israel's actions enhance our determination to pursue the path of resistance through all means available. … [Israel is] committing a holocaust as the whole world watches and doesn't lift a finger to stop it."
​

(Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum, December 25, 2008)

"We won't succumb to the logic of threats made by the Zionist war criminals. Today we are prepared more than ever to foil any aggression against our people."
​

(Sheik Ahmed Yassin, interview with Australian Muslim youth magazine, Nida'ul Islam, June/ July 2002)

"The Movement within two months [after the intifada broke] was able to launch qualitative operations that shook the world… there are qualitative Jihad operations such as those in Natanya and Khadera. We are proud of such operations and the next days will witness better and bigger ones...."
"I say that the final battle will result in our victory and that this land will reject this enemy similar to its predecessors..."
"It is not a must that it would be in 2027 for it could be five years earlier or ten years later. The important thing is that the equation revolves round 2027 and the Hebrew state would end Insha'allah [God willing]."
​

(Sheik Ahmed Yassin, interview, Palestine-info, March 2001)
Early Hamas communiqués (distributed by Islamic Association for Palestine)

"Come to jihad, come to jihad, come to martyrdom..."
"Those thirsty for Jihad all over the world. For the sake of Allah. For liberating the land of Palestine and Jerusalem...."
"We declared and continue to declare now, that a Jew is a Jew... [do not trust them when they say they want peace because they act only] to serve their religion and their people."
​

(Hamas communiqué, March 9, 1989, translated and distributed in the U.S. by the Islamic Association for Palestine)

"The Jews: killed the prophets…slaughtered the innocent…imprisoned our pious... NO PEACE WITH THE MURDERERS."
​

(Hamas communiqué, October 5, 1988, translated and distributed in the U.S. by the Islamic Association for Palestine)

"The Nazi Jews tried different methods..."
"Let everyone know that Hamas... is only against Jews and those twisted in their manner... it realizes the Jews' methods in trying to cause hostility and friction between people..."
"We should lend punches to the Jews wherever possible [to commemorate Muhammad's defeat of one of the Jewish tribes of Arabia]."
​

 

[CMike]

Here are arab leaders saying that they use their own people as human shields

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2G1TZKerTo

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Terrorists Use Palestinian Civilians As Human Shields - YouTube

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Human Shields - Hamas in action - YouTube

 

[FearGod]

Perhaps if the arab terrorists in judea and samaria stopped hiding behind their women and children they wouldn't be killed or injured.

Also they attack from hospitals and mosques hoping to generate a response for propoganda.

As far as Rachel Corrie walking in front of an armored bulldozer that has very little visibility is really a very stupid idea. She killed herself.

The arab dictatorships spew their hatred to their own children, and that's one of the reasons we have perpetual hate from them.

Incitement, Antisemitism and Hatred of Israel in Palestinian School Textbooks

Incitement, Antisemitism and Hatred of Israel
in Palestinian School Textbooks

(November 2001)




Main Points:

• 
  The textbooks used in the Palestinian Authority school system, from elementary through high school, are replete with strong expressions of hatred towards Israel, negation of its right to exist and praise for the struggle against it, as well as antisemitic expressions against the Jews.
• 
  In these textbooks, Israel is described as "a country of gangs, born in crime." The Jews are arrogant and sly traitors, and Zionism is a racist movement and a "germ."
• 
  From this point of view, the Oslo Accords are described as "a move to get the Palestine Liberation Army into the territories," and support for jihad is emphasized.
• Thus, Palestinian youth are educated from birth in an atmosphere of religious and nationalist incitement, with no trace of anything positive regarding Israel, which results in a deepening of their hatred towards Israel, a fanning of the flames of violence and encouragement and justification of terrorism against the State of Israel and against Jews.

Elaboration
1. In the eight years that have elapsed since the establishment of the Palestinian Authority, the Palestinian educational system has been using Jordanian and Egyptian textbooks. It is only in the past academic year that the Palestinian Ministry of Education has added textbooks to the curriculum that were specially written for the 1st and 6th grades and this year, according to reports, for the 2nd and 7th grades as well.
2. The Jordanian textbooks, intended for all students in high schools and most of the classes in the elementary schools, abound in expressions of incitement and hatred that were reintroduced when the educational system was transferred from Israeli to Palestinian responsibility. These books are indicative of the "war to the death" mentality against Israel and Zionism and everything that they represent.



3. Following are some examples of incitement, hatred towards Israel and antisemitism, according to subject:

1. 
   <LI type=a>The Jewish people - the textbooks are replete with antisemitic expressions of hatred and hostility towards the Jewish people, including references from the Koran attesting to the corrupt, dishonest character of the Jews, who are also anti-Islam. They claim that, according to the Talmud, the Jews believe that the human animal was created to serve them and that it is permitted to deceive the gentiles, who have satanic souls.
   
   <LI type=a>Jerusalem - Israelis covet Jerusalem above all else. They burned the Al Aksa mosque in 1969 as part of the Zionist plan to take control of Haram al-Sharif (the Temple Mount) and to destroy the Muslim buildings there, in order to build their Temple. It is incumbent on the Arab army to liberate the mosques from the thieving conqueror.
   
   <LI type=a>Zionism - Zionism is a threat to the Arabs, and all Arabs are obligated to fight it; the Zionist germ must be expunged from the Arab nation. Teachers’ guides for the 10th and 12th grades explain that Zionism is a racist movement that aspires to Judaize Palestine by expelling its Arab residents. Furthermore, Zionist ideology is more racist, extremist and aggressive than other ideologies (of the 20th century) and established a Jewish political entity in Palestine that threatens the security of the Arab homeland.
   
   <LI type=a>Jihad - already in the 2nd grade, Palestinian pupils learn that Jordanian young men are eager to sacrifice their lives for the jihad, to defend the Arab character of Palestine. Another textbook states that the Arabs and the Muslims will fight the Jews who evicted them from their homes. In the 8th grade, the students learn that the usurpers have crossed all boundaries and therefore the time has come for jihad, to unsheathe the sharp sword.
   The Iz a-Din al-Kassam receives much praise in descriptions of Palestinian bravery, and the battle of Karama is described as resulting from the Zionist lust for expansion. Stone-throwers are also glorified in these books.
   
   <LI type=a>Israel - The name "Israel" does not appear on the maps, and Jewish cities are not mentioned. Tel Aviv is called "Jaffa." In the 5th grade, discussion is devoted to the question: Why must we fight the Jews and expel them from our land? In the 7th grade, the children learn that 1948 was the year of "the Great Crime," when "the gang state" was established by seizing control of cities and villages and mistreating the residents.
2. The "Right of Return" - Eighth-graders are taught a song about Jaffa, promising to return from the diaspora and the prisons. An 8th grade history textbook explains that Israel’s close ties with imperialism made its establishment possible.

4. Although there is a certain moderation of the militant terminology in the textbooks edited by the PA, they contain no recognition of Israel. Expressions of an Anti-Zionist and anti-Jewish character are still to be found in them, although in an ambiguous and insinuated way.



5. Some of the negative elements found in the textbooks are described below:

1. <LI type=a>No recognition of Israel - Israel is not mentioned as a state, but rather in the context of issues such as the settlements and use of natural resources, or wars and investigations. The borders of the state are not delineated and its name does not appear on maps, which bear the name "Palestine". Some maps contain the names of cities that existed before the establishment of the state; others show Jewish settlements only in the territories, but do not reflect the true situation there.
   <LI type=a>The Palestinian ambition to rule over all of the Land of Israel - A photograph of the city of Jaffa identifies it as a Palestinian city, and a picture of the Al-Jazzar mosque in Akko bears the caption: "Palestine is Our Land." Students are expected to aspire to the unification of Palestine and to understand that the Palestinians, descendants of the Canaanites, have first rights to the land.
   <LI type=a>The struggle against Israel - the "Right Of Return" - The textbooks state that the refugee camps are temporary quarters, until the residents return to the places that they were forced to abandon. One book contains a song praising Iz a-Din al-Kassam as the heroic figure of the struggle. Jihad is taught as a value for the citizen who desires to defend his homeland. Using any and all available means is presented as a religious imperative, and anyone killed in the course of defending his homeland becomes a "shaheed" (martyr) - all this is included in a textbook for the 6th grade.
2. The Oslo Accords - The accords are described as a move that enabled the Palestinian liberation army to entrench itself in the territories. Principles such as normalization and coexistence are, of course, not even mentioned.

6. In the eight years since the signing of the Oslo Accords, another generation of pupils has been educated to believe that the establishment of the State of Israel was "the Big Crime" and that the Palestinians, together with the Arab and Muslim states, must fight it to "the death."
7. The pace at which the PA is working to change the content of the textbooks is slow and does not reveal much enthusiasm, to say the least, towards fulfilling the explicit Palestinian commitment "to educate pupils in the spirit of the peace agreement." That the PA is dealing with this subject unwillingly, under Israeli and international pressure, is obvious from the meagerness of the results.

All these copy and paste that you did is to defend the reasons for the crimes of Israel in Palestine.:sarcastic

 

[CMike]

All these copy and paste that you did is to defend the reasons for the crimes of Israel in Palestine.:sarcastic

There is "Palestine" and certainly no "crimes of Israel".

The crimes are committed by the arab leadership by not only attacking Israeli civilians but by having more hate for Jews than caring about their own women and children.

 

[FearGod]

Below are some statements from Hamas.

Hamas in Their Own Words

Hamas in Their Own Words

Posted: May 2, 2011​

"We regard this as a continuation of the American policy based on oppression and the shedding of Muslim and Arab blood…We condemn the assassination and the killing of an Arab holy warrior. We ask God to offer him mercy with the true believers and the martyrs."
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(Ismail Haniyeh, head of the Hamas administration in the Gaza Strip commenting on the killing of Osama Bin Laden, May 2, 2011)

"Whoever is killed by a Jew receives the reward of two martyrs, because the very thing that the Jews did to the prophets was done to him.
"The Jews are the most despicable and contemptible nation to crawl upon the face of the Earth, because they have displayed hostility to Allah.
"Allah will kill the Jews in the hell of the world to come, just like they killed the believers in the hell of this world.
"The Jews kill anyone who believes in Allah. They do not want to see any peace whatsoever on Earth."
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(Sermon delivered by 'Atallah Abu Al-Subh, former Hamas minister of culture, which aired on Al-Aqsa TV, April 8, 2011, translation by MEMRI).

“We cannot agree to a programme that is intended to poison the minds of our children…Holocaust studies in refugee camps is a contemptible plot and serves the Zionist entity with a goal of creating a reality and telling stories in order to justify acts of slaughter against the Palestinian people."
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(Statement from Hamas Ministry of Refugee Affairs on U.N. Relief and Works Agency plan to include Holocaust education in the curriculum taught Palestinian refugees, February 28, 2011)

"The lie of the Zionist Holocaust crumbles with countless holocausts committed by the Zionists in Beit Hanoun, al-Fakhoura school and other places in Palestine."
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(Hamas leader Mahmoud al-Zahar, speaking at a memorial service for Palestinians killed during the 2008 Israeli war in Gaza, January 6, 2011)

"Palestine is Islamic, and not an Islamic emirate, from the river to the sea, that unites the Palestinians. Jews have no right in it, with the exception of those who lived on the land of Palestine before World War I."
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(Hamas official Halil Al-Hayya, Al-Hayat newspaper, November 11, 2010)

"We have liberated Gaza, but have we recognized Israel? Have we given up our lands occupied in 1948? We demand the liberation of the West Bank, and the establishment of a state in the West Bank and Gaza, with Jerusalem as its capital – but without recognizing [Israel]. This is the key – without recognizing the Israeli enemy on a single inch of land. ...
"Our plan for this stage is to liberate any inch of Palestinian land, and to establish a state on it. Our ultimate plan is [to have] Palestine in its entirety. I say this loud and clear so that nobody will accuse me of employing political tactics. We will not recognize the Israeli enemy. "
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(Hamas leader Mahmoud Al-Zahhar, Future News TV, June 15, 2010, Source: MEMRI.org)

Hamas "must lay the foundation for a tomorrow without Zionists."
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(Hamas leader Mahmoud a-Zahar, Al-Aqsa TV, January 4, 2009)

"We are stronger, and more determined, and have more will, and we will hold onto our rights even more than before."
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(Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh, December 28, 2008)

"This is the time for the third uprising... Resistance will continue through suicide missions."
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(Hamas leader-in-exile Khaled Mashaal, Damascus, Syria, December 27, 2008)

"Hamas will continue the resistance until the last drop of blood."
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(Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum, calling for a resumption of suicide attacks on Gaza radio, December 27, 2008)

"Israel will pay a heavy price for its crimes against the Palestinians. Israel's actions enhance our determination to pursue the path of resistance through all means available. … [Israel is] committing a holocaust as the whole world watches and doesn't lift a finger to stop it."
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(Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum, December 25, 2008)

"We won't succumb to the logic of threats made by the Zionist war criminals. Today we are prepared more than ever to foil any aggression against our people."
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(Sheik Ahmed Yassin, interview with Australian Muslim youth magazine, Nida'ul Islam, June/ July 2002)

"The Movement within two months [after the intifada broke] was able to launch qualitative operations that shook the world… there are qualitative Jihad operations such as those in Natanya and Khadera. We are proud of such operations and the next days will witness better and bigger ones...."
"I say that the final battle will result in our victory and that this land will reject this enemy similar to its predecessors..."
"It is not a must that it would be in 2027 for it could be five years earlier or ten years later. The important thing is that the equation revolves round 2027 and the Hebrew state would end Insha'allah [God willing]."
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(Sheik Ahmed Yassin, interview, Palestine-info, March 2001)
Early Hamas communiqués (distributed by Islamic Association for Palestine)

"Come to jihad, come to jihad, come to martyrdom..."
"Those thirsty for Jihad all over the world. For the sake of Allah. For liberating the land of Palestine and Jerusalem...."
"We declared and continue to declare now, that a Jew is a Jew... [do not trust them when they say they want peace because they act only] to serve their religion and their people."
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(Hamas communiqué, March 9, 1989, translated and distributed in the U.S. by the Islamic Association for Palestine)

"The Jews: killed the prophets…slaughtered the innocent…imprisoned our pious... NO PEACE WITH THE MURDERERS."
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(Hamas communiqué, October 5, 1988, translated and distributed in the U.S. by the Islamic Association for Palestine)

"The Nazi Jews tried different methods..."
"Let everyone know that Hamas... is only against Jews and those twisted in their manner... it realizes the Jews' methods in trying to cause hostility and friction between people..."
"We should lend punches to the Jews wherever possible [to commemorate Muhammad's defeat of one of the Jewish tribes of Arabia]."
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Again,this is the reason for killing the Palestinian children,what kind of a merciful man you are.